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Post by cajun on Aug 24, 2016 16:43:58 GMT -8
Cajun, I wasn't trying to say that your floods are "normal" for your area. But it's kind of the same thing as saying that "Arizona" is a high-flood-danger area. Well, not really. Certain washes will flood on a regular basis.... It's tiresome, as you can imagine, to hear over and over about how we are at such a greater risk of flood because of our terrain. In fact, our terrain can take great amounts of rain without flooding. People who live along the small rivers, like Bateaux, know that their property will flood when the river periodically overflows its banks -- which is why they build their houses on tall stilts. I offered the decades-long flood map because the risk of flood here is no greater than the flood risk in most parts of the country, and it's apparently less than some. I didn't know our flood risk compared to other places until I started looking into it. I didn't create the graphic showing where floods have been recorded -- I just find it interesting in light of comments here and elsewhere. When South Carolina flooded, nobody said, "nobody should live in SC." When CA has fires, mudslides, or earthquakes, no one says "Nobody should live in CA." Nobody has suggested that people should leave Nepal or Italy or Malaysia or Japan. Etc etc. While I know you haven't said this, it's awfully tiresome to repeatedly hear how people deserved this (they didn't) or how it was totally expected (it wasn't). Disasters happen. And they're just awful no matter where they happen to be.
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Post by rebeccad on Aug 24, 2016 22:13:14 GMT -8
When CA has fires, mudslides, or earthquakes, no one says "Nobody should live in CA." Actually, I'm beginning to think that's the case (about CA). The place just can't handle people.
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Post by RumiDude on Aug 24, 2016 22:26:04 GMT -8
When CA has fires, mudslides, or earthquakes, no one says "Nobody should live in CA." Actually, I'm beginning to think that's the case (about CA). The place just can't handle people. People shouldn't live where the land cannot sustain the population. That would include much of California and the southwest. They have to pipe in water from elsewhere to live there. I am not talking about the finger lakes and NYC, because that is not much burden on the water supply. But in the SW, it is eco destroying what they do to get water there. Just my opinion ... Rumi EDIT: We are going to have to start living differently than in the past. In the past, we chose places to live out of expediency. But going forward, we will need to chose more using ecological criteria. And that may mean abandoning some places. In the end, both economic and ecological reasons will force us to chose better. It is best to be proactive rather than reactive.
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Post by rebeccad on Aug 25, 2016 7:09:13 GMT -8
We are going to have to start living differently than in the past. In the past, we chose places to live out of expediency. But going forward, we will need to chose more using ecological criteria. And that may mean abandoning some places. In the end, both economic and ecological reasons will force us to chose better. It is best to be proactive rather than reactive. A bit of thread drift, but a fascinating topic and one I think about. I largely agree with you, and yet...how do you abandon a place like Los Angeles? Where do those people go, even if you could convince several million people, the movie industry, etc., to leave? I honestly don't think it will happen until some kind of disaster destroys it all--or maybe we have a catastrophic population collapse that makes it possible for people to pick more carefully where to live.
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Post by BlueBear on Aug 25, 2016 8:02:49 GMT -8
I'll bring it up again for those living in S. Florida. This storm (still unnamed, #99L) still in the Eastern Caribbean, is on track to potentially strengthen and possibly hit South Florida. Some forecast tracks have it going toward Louisiana as well. Still too early to say for sure, both in direction and intensification (the spread of forecasts go from remaining just a Tropical Depression to a borderline Cat-5, huge spread), but it's just something to keep an eye on in the meantime. - Mike
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Post by cajun on Aug 25, 2016 9:18:46 GMT -8
BlueBear -- trust me: I'm monitoring!! Those struggling with their current crises (as opposed to just helping those in crisis) may not be as aware. There's only so much a person can take. We are going to have to start living differently than in the past. Agreed.
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Post by reuben on Aug 25, 2016 9:40:18 GMT -8
We are going to have to start living differently than in the past. Scotch and tequila? I don't think I'm up for that.
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Post by BlueBear on Aug 25, 2016 10:02:38 GMT -8
BlueBear -- trust me: I'm monitoring!! Those struggling with their current crises (as opposed to just helping those in crisis) may not be as aware. There's only so much a person can take. Yeah, I know. Sorry, I didn't mean to imply otherwise. I just wanted to give folks a heads-up, in general. I hope recovery is going well so far. Here with my kids I can't easily get down there to help right now, but if there's something we can do, just let us know. - Mike
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Post by RumiDude on Aug 25, 2016 10:34:27 GMT -8
We are going to have to start living differently than in the past. Scotch and tequila? I don't think I'm up for that. Yea! That's what I'm talking about. And chase it all with a beer. Rumi
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Post by cajun on Aug 25, 2016 19:28:33 GMT -8
BlueBear -- trust me: I'm monitoring!! Those struggling with their current crises (as opposed to just helping those in crisis) may not be as aware. There's only so much a person can take. Yeah, I know. Sorry, I didn't mean to imply otherwise. I just wanted to give folks a heads-up, in general. I hope recovery is going well so far. Here with my kids I can't easily get down there to help right now, but if there's something we can do, just let us know. - Mike I knew you weren't picking on me. Sharing the weather reports is a big help -- people are so engaged in recovery that the future (even next week) is too much to think of. I've got my next three days of relief work lined up already! If we could find a few sunny days, it would be awesome. So far, though, not much luck with that! We have had some kind of torrential rain every day, just not sustained for more than 30 minutes or so.
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Post by BlueBear on Aug 28, 2016 3:04:51 GMT -8
How're y'all holding up cajun?
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Post by cajun on Aug 28, 2016 7:28:55 GMT -8
How're y'all holding up cajun? I'm worn out. Everyone is worn out. My office reopened last Monday, but was closed again on Friday for our pre-scheduled move. Hearing the stories from everyone affected during the week was heartbreaking -- some haven't returned yet -- but it gave me a new place to share my energies. We started gutting the house of one of the ladies from work yesterday, and hopefully we'll finish today. Before that yesterday, a group of us went to help a good backpacking/paddling friend who fell and ripped his quadricep muscle while cleaning after the flood. The day before, when my office was closed for the move, I helped the son-in-law of a friend of a friend gut his elderly parents' house; it was just the two of us, and I don't think I've ever sweated that much in my cumulative 40+ years! But this week, I'll unpack my office and plan for what needs to be done next weekend. I expect pretty much everyone will take off a few hours to watch the LSU season opener ... I know I will!! The other good news is that we're more easily able to get supplies now. Stores are stocking up on containers, cleaning supplies, gloves, masks, and the like. A lot of manpower will be here next weekend for the long Labor Day holiday weekend. So lots of progress is being made ... there's just a long way still to go. Thanks for checking on me!
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Post by BlueBear on Aug 31, 2016 10:08:44 GMT -8
Thankfully this next one will miss LA, but it is headed for the FL panhandle. Just updated to Tropical Storm status, "Hermine" will make landfall in the next couple days.
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Post by zeke on Aug 31, 2016 10:15:30 GMT -8
Most of the storm is supposed to be North of me. In fact, the latest I heard was that the storm's Southern edge will be about 20 miles north of me.
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Post by autumnmist on Sept 2, 2016 9:09:05 GMT -8
cajun, I haven't completely read this article completely but thought that if you know of any veterans needing help b/c of the flood, there might be some assistance available to them. "VA teams serving Veterans in communities impacted by Louisiana floods", www.blogs.va.gov/VAntage/30415/va-staff-deploys-into-communities-impacted-by-louisiana-floods-to-serve-veterans/"...Teams of VA Police officers, pharmacy and nursing staff traveled to the clinics throughout the area each day to support the teams " Buses are mentioned also, but it's not clear to me if the buses were organized by the VA and went to the various VA clinics or worked in conjunction with other responders. Anyway, if you know of any veterans who are still trapped in their homes and can't get out to VA clinics or hospitals, this article might offer some suggestions.
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