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Post by gabby on Aug 10, 2015 11:16:04 GMT -8
I'm not sure what gave you that idea. I was not upset or angered or anything else, Travis. I was just remarking - I thought, wryly - about how I always talk and talk and talk and type and type and type and this time was different. I am usually somewhat miffed by the posters who only put up a link (you know who you are!) or an uninformed comment w/o any attribution or documentation of any kind (you know who you are!), but I must be getting older: it doesn't really bother me as much as it may sound merely reading my posts. Your comment was appropriately humorous. I guess I figured, among the crowd here, everyone would already know all about it. I didn't think any further info was required. And, lo and behold: now I'm also one of the "you know who you are!". Heh. But the link would have helped. Yes, you are absolutely right. I wouldn't worry about any of it - your remark was dead-on for the tone that I expected when I posted that cryptic little smirking, snarky comment and that picture. No worries, mate! I wanted to be "dumb" and "funny" and kinda succeeded (I guess), but then found that I was completely "out of character". Arg. Her name is, I believe, "Rayna". And, yes, she's a cutie. It still appears to me that the color in the photo has been enhanced. But you are relying on photos, and photos do not always render color accurately. One of the reasons I keep coming back to this "silly" forum - and why I missed it so much while it was gone - is that there are so many people here who are so intelligent and aware and possessed of such a wide range of skills and knowledge - aware of subtle nuance that I myself might very well miss entirely. Photographers and philosophers and philosopher-photographers of the world and the soul of man, if you will. I don't always appear to value the opinions of others (I know, I know) in the depths of passionate discourse, but I am invariably altered by both the most erudite and the least informed in mostly unexpected ways. I leave it to you, in full recognition of the hazards of Dunning-Kruger syndrome, to work out which each of you actually be, which am I. In some respects, as I draw ever closer to my "golden years" (tsk tsk), I recognize that that distinction is, to a very large extent, not that big a deal - though many still try me mightily for no particular reason that, at least, anyone else can discern. /end_of_blather_I_guess_if_I_have_to Regardless, the point I made was that without a link explaining what's going on, the photo in the opening post could easily be mistaken for a gimmick ad for orange juice. And the title of the thread was "Colorado Orange Juice." Thus, my offhand remark about the chick in my first response. Why would anyone take offense at that? As I said, I was not offended. I merely "sounded" that way, depending on the way in which you read my response. From the second link above: [/span] as the plume passes and that could be kicked up again in flooding or weather events."[/ul][/quote]This is a very real problem, even in everyday neighborhoods. However, when I once tried to explain this to a woman I met on the trail who was standing by while her children waded in runoff water in a nearby creek, she simply did not understand. How someone could miss the fact that copious amounts of pesticides, fertilizers, as well as dog-cat-possum-raccoon-rat-feces/whatever-was-on-the-lawns-and-in-the-greenbelts will run down into creeks and sink into remaining pools of water is beyond me. But maybe it's not really a problem. Uh huh.
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Post by gabby on Aug 10, 2015 11:22:11 GMT -8
Yeah, like since when does big, wasteful, multi-national, pollution-prone, industry need any kind of oversight? Like, I mean, since the 1800s or so? And if we had just put the railroads in charge of bison conservation back in the 1800s, wouldn't life be swell? Oh, yeah. Corporations are ideal self-regulators. :) An aside: There was a somewhat long article in the NY Times yesterday - "Coca-Cola Funds Scientists Who Shift Blame for Obesity Away From Bad Diets" about Coca-Cola's attempts to improve the rep of "sugary drinks". Sounds exactly like the campaigns financed by Exxon and others to make "global warming" into a "hoax". We don't need no stinkin' regulation!!
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Post by johnnyray on Aug 10, 2015 11:27:10 GMT -8
I responded to the OP and considered adding a link since I had read about the spill but just decide to go along. It's just the spill of the day, whether mine waste, coal ash, pipeline leak, tanker truck full of chemicals or what have you. The media and the rest of us I guess treat these things as isolated incidents rather than a pattern of use. Oh well just my 2 cents, I have couple old tires to get rid of, think I'll burn them and that should take care of it, hope the neighbors don't mind the smoke.
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Post by gabby on Aug 10, 2015 11:45:48 GMT -8
Sometimes I truly believe that there are events so egregiously horrible, yet apparently so all-too-humanly unavoidable that they are almost insanely funny - and one must laugh to return to some place of sanity - even if recognizing that we must do something perhaps more serious and more important - even if that "something" is not readily apparent.
Though I am not a "religious person", I find that I wish (& pray to my own silly gods) that Sandra Bland could have retained enough of her sanity to not kill herself, and that everyone everywhere (including stressed-out cops) could somehow deal with all the demons that drive them, but, for now, I laugh to keep my sanity and remain even marginally effective, so that, perhaps, I can change - at the very least - myself.
I have no sense of humor. I guess.
"...he said, as he snickered to himself on the way to his ultimate demise..."
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Post by Lamebeaver on Aug 10, 2015 12:15:40 GMT -8
You're probably right Travis. The photographer's try to catch the most impressive shot. Here's my current nomination for the winner. As far as the bison, the railroads did pretty much get to do what they wanted through the 1800s. Conservation efforts didn't really get started until around 1905, by which time the numbers had dwindled to around 1,000.
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Post by BigLoad on Aug 10, 2015 12:17:06 GMT -8
Some of those mines upstream from Durango and Silverton leak even nastier stuff. I remember so many pools and rivulets of similar colors, or worse, the vivid, intense red of mercury. There is still a big price to yet to be paid for the ore dug so long ago.
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Post by FamilySherpa on Aug 10, 2015 12:29:09 GMT -8
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Post by gabby on Aug 10, 2015 13:03:16 GMT -8
Not to beat a dead horse on the "humor thing", but does anyone other than myself succumb to pareidolia so readily?There is at least one snarling human face in those rocks in the center of that picture, though most of them seem to be laughing, smirking or even guffawing at the madness of human endeavor...
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Post by Deleted on Aug 10, 2015 13:31:10 GMT -8
Yes, that's the best I've read, and it includes this statement: [/span][/ul]
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Post by Deleted on Aug 10, 2015 13:36:16 GMT -8
There is at least one snarling human face in those rocks in the center of that picture, I'd be snarling too if I were stuck in contaminated orange muck while a pretty girl smiled on the river bank. Have a heart!
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Post by llamero on Aug 10, 2015 16:39:25 GMT -8
Yeah, it breaks my heart. What a beautiful area, otherwise.
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Post by swmtnbackpacker on Aug 10, 2015 17:26:33 GMT -8
...What a beautiful area, otherwise. Actually in Durango CO right now (trip scheduled way before) and you cannot tell being by the Animas except a small sign here and there by La Plata cty. .. no rafting though. Coming up through Aztec NM they at least had a big sign announcing water restrictions. Of course I'm sticking to booze as a civic duty nonetheless to preserve what water I can for the children's.
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Post by Westy on Aug 10, 2015 18:46:23 GMT -8
The bartender at Ken & Sue's Restaurant makes terrific Perfect Manhattans! This information is provide to enhance your civic duty obligations.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 11, 2015 2:31:40 GMT -8
So, who's going to fine the EPA?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 11, 2015 4:51:49 GMT -8
So, who's going to fine the EPA? Fine them for what? Fine them for trying to clean up someone else's mess that had been polluting the same river for decades?
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