gabby
Trail Wise!
Posts: 4,539
|
Post by gabby on Aug 8, 2015 8:39:47 GMT -8
Ummmmmmm...goood!
|
|
johnnyray
Trail Wise!
Argle-Bargle, Jiggery-Pokery, and Applesauce
Posts: 2,050
|
Post by johnnyray on Aug 8, 2015 9:20:28 GMT -8
Mining leaves a wonderful legacy that we can enjoy for generations.
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Aug 8, 2015 9:57:43 GMT -8
We are talking about the young chick here, aren't we. Forget the orange juice.
|
|
gabby
Trail Wise!
Posts: 4,539
|
Post by gabby on Aug 8, 2015 10:55:51 GMT -8
We are talking about the young chick here, aren't we. I seem to give offence without ever trying to or intending to. :( No---I saw the article in the Durango Herald, noted that the picture posted seemed like a good simulacrum of an ad for some heavily advertised, semi-drinkable concoction like Coke (or Sunny D!), and the phrase "Colorado Orange Juice" popped into mind. If you hadn't noticed by now, I'm usually "gabby" ("garrulous") as hell - I had a thought simultaneous with posting that I'd subvert that for once and be "cryptic". (And, see, you've made me mess that up!) Note that, true to form, the PTB are issuing press releases to the effect that the water, laced with heavy metals, lead & arsenic, is "not toxic". "Ignore the orange color!" Makes one wonder why Coke doesn't do the same thing: "Ignore the dark color! It's sooooooo refreshing! Coke is the pause that refreshes!"
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Aug 8, 2015 12:13:23 GMT -8
We are talking about the young chick here, aren't we. I seem to give offence without ever trying to or intending to. . . . I'm not sure what gave you that idea. She honestly looked like a cute chick to me. But the link would have helped. I had not read that news report yet and simply assumed this was a "PhotoShopped" image accompanying some ad somewhere. It still appears to me that the color in the photo has been enhanced. But I'm not claiming it has and no, I'm not accusing you. In much of that news report, the water looks a murky tan color rather than orange, and that is not unusual in my area of the country. It's a common product of runoff in the sagebrush steppes of the High Plains. However, runoff in the mountains is rarely murky like that. This was obviously the product of an accident in old mining sites. That's evidence once more that the settlement of the West was accompanied by reckless disregard for the environment and wildlife. And we are nowhere near cleaning up the abundant mess left behind. In the meantime, accidents happen.
|
|
zeke
Trail Wise!
Peekaboo slot 2023
Posts: 9,894
|
Post by zeke on Aug 9, 2015 3:57:41 GMT -8
As the article says, it was a clean up team working for the EPA, not EPA employees directly. However, an accident like this one only points out the need for the EPA to continue to monitor mines and such. Clean air and water is essential to all.
|
|
swmtnbackpacker
Trail Wise!
Back but probably posting soon under my real name ... Rico Sauve
Posts: 4,886
|
Post by swmtnbackpacker on Aug 9, 2015 7:32:49 GMT -8
I'll be driving over it real quick myself going thru Durango- think I'll load up on water in Albuquerque tho, thanx anyways (and there's always beer!!). Some locals I've talked to said the old mine was going to burst anyways which is why EPA was working on it, but I imagine there will be a full review as the spill crosses state lines. All those metals will need to monitored especially as it is going across state lines: www.abqjournal.com/625409/news/wastewater-from-colorado-mine-reaches-new-mexico.html The good news is that it's going downstream towards UT and AZ's Lake Powell complex. Probably enough boating and agricultural waste that this additional stuff won't make much difference ... Really, one of the big (internationally renowned) fishing lakes nearby cautions not to eat too much fish due to radioactivity left over from the last atomic tests nearby. Bad stuff this runoff but not unusual. There's been other spills like this cleaned up in a few years and there will be more. On a positive note,I've been waiting for Durango real estate to get cheaper
|
|
|
Post by Lamebeaver on Aug 10, 2015 5:31:09 GMT -8
The color looks pretty accurate to me. Here's another photo from USA Today
|
|
FamilySherpa
Trail Wise!
Tangled up in Rhododendron
Posts: 1,791
|
Post by FamilySherpa on Aug 10, 2015 6:58:27 GMT -8
I'm confused about the EPA comments.
If I come over to your house, take a dump on your couch, and while you're cleaning it up, you accidently get it on the rug, the issue of me taking the dump on your couch is totally forgotten about along with the fact that you are cleaning up my mess?
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Aug 10, 2015 7:07:29 GMT -8
The color looks pretty accurate to me. Here's another photo from USA TodayBut you are relying on photos, and photos do not always render color accurately. Regardless, the point I made was that without a link explaining what's going on, the photo in the opening post could easily be mistaken for a gimmick ad for orange juice. And the title of the thread was "Colorado Orange Juice." Thus, my offhand remark about the chick in my first response. Why would anyone take offense at that? Debating the color now is rather irrelevant. In higher density of pollutants, the water may have actually appeared orange. I was not denying that. However, something so simple as a polarizing lens on the cameras or polarizing sunglasses — both of which are common — could create a more orange hue than most people would observe with unaided eyes. So referring to photos proves nothing. For example, if you look at other photos, the water does not appear orange at all. See the following two: The murky tan tint in the two photos above — of the same pollutants — appears no different than the tint I see in nearly every pond of Thunder Basin National Grassland. And you can observe the same color most any day in the Little Missouri River running through Theodore Roosevelt National Park in western North Dakota, shown below. Image source: The Arts Partnership
|
|
swmtnbackpacker
Trail Wise!
Back but probably posting soon under my real name ... Rico Sauve
Posts: 4,886
|
Post by swmtnbackpacker on Aug 10, 2015 9:14:56 GMT -8
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Aug 10, 2015 9:42:53 GMT -8
From the second link above: [/span] as the plume passes and that could be kicked up again in flooding or weather events."[/ul] That is what I've been wondering about. It's not like all this sediment is certain to wash out to the ocean right away and then that will be the end of it. What will be the long-term hazards when some sediment settles out along the way? It would be nice if the original owner of the mine could be held responsible for cleanup. The EPA did not dig that mine in the first place.
|
|
johnnyray
Trail Wise!
Argle-Bargle, Jiggery-Pokery, and Applesauce
Posts: 2,050
|
Post by johnnyray on Aug 10, 2015 9:49:12 GMT -8
The EPA did not dig that mine in the first place. Still doesn't stop some for calling for the end of the EPA, one more wasteful Big Government Agency.
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Aug 10, 2015 10:08:38 GMT -8
The EPA did not dig that mine in the first place. Still doesn't stop some for calling for the end of the EPA, one more wasteful Big Government Agency. Yeah, like since when does big, wasteful, multi-national, pollution-prone, industry need any kind of oversight? Like, I mean, since the 1800s or so? And if we had just put the railroads in charge of bison conservation back in the 1800s, wouldn't life be swell?
|
|
walkswithblackflies
Trail Wise!
Resident terrorist-supporting eco-freak bootlicker
Posts: 6,952
|
Post by walkswithblackflies on Aug 10, 2015 10:32:42 GMT -8
|
|