JiminMD
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Sept 23, 2016 0:15:22 GMT -8
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Post by JiminMD on Sept 23, 2016 0:15:22 GMT -8
I learned today that there is a new "quadravalent" flu shot for this year which protects against four flu strains. My doctor's office advises that many pharmacies and walk in clinics are using three strain "trivalent" shots. Obviously high dose shots are still available for folks over 65 and a pediatric version for kids under 3. Flu Mist nasal vaccines seem to be largely out this year.
Just throwing it out there for discussion. Being a cop, married to a pediatric nurse, with young kids at home, this is interesting stuff in my world.
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Post by reuben on Sept 23, 2016 3:02:55 GMT -8
Being a cop, married to a pediatric nurse, with young kids at home Dude, you're a walking petri dish. Wouldn't surprise me if you're one of those people that never gets sick, but spews germs to make the rest of us sick. Prior to getting married I almost never got sick - maybe once every 5 years. But then my wife came pre-equipped with two kids and a dog, and I proceeded to get sick 4 or 5 times per year. It took a few years, but I built up my resistance again.
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Post by JiminMD on Sept 23, 2016 3:08:25 GMT -8
Two kids, one in preschool and one in a public elementary school. CDC should monitor my family, the plague may not start with us but it will get here quickly.
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Post by Lamebeaver on Sept 23, 2016 3:31:19 GMT -8
Got mine on Wednesday. I don't have a clue which one it was, but my arm is still a little sore.
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Post by tigger on Sept 23, 2016 6:37:39 GMT -8
I just recently started getting the flu shot again. With two snot sickles that bring home every type of crud every other week, I figure every bit of extra protection I can get, I'll take.
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Post by catonsvillebill on Sept 23, 2016 7:54:47 GMT -8
My first flu shot was last year. Never, ever again. I had 6 or 7 flus during the course of the winter, and 1 very heavy long head cold. Finally my doctor gave me an anti biotic shot & BOOM it was gone in 2 days. I didn't think all of it was caused by the flu shot, until I eliminated all possible causes. Took a few months, but I learned my lesson.
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Post by FamilySherpa on Sept 23, 2016 10:34:07 GMT -8
Saw this quote the other day regarding the mist....
"It came as a surprise this June when the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention recommended against using the nasal flu vaccine for the 2016-2017 flu season, citing a lack of evidence that it works."
But somehow there was enough evidence that it worked to begin using it on the public in the first place???
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Post by davesenesac on Sept 23, 2016 12:09:04 GMT -8
Got a message from Kaiser P (health provider) this week alerting that it was time to receive the annual flu shot and their clinic was now open. So will probably go down next week. Most people when sick that think they caught the flu usually only have one of the stronger cold virus infections. That is because they are not familiar with the true symptoms of influenza. The flu almost always starts with considerable head pressure and headache and then a rise in temperature to at least 102F. Head cold viruses rarely cause a temperature more than about 101F and there dozens of dozens of different head cold virus strains with symptoms that vary greatly with some brief and some lasting as long as a case of flu. Many people react to the notion of getting a flu shot the same way they do about going to the dentist to be drilled on. Thus are quick to make excuses to never get a shot. Then winter after winter after winter, I see these same people sniffling and coughing in their cubicles though most of the time it just head colds. As someone that has over decades worked in buildings and offices with lots of other people each year where others are sniffling and coughing, I start to catch a head cold a few times each winter. In this era a whole lot of people will come in and work during all but the worst days of being sick whether that be a head cold or influenza. I infrequently actually come down with colds because I knock them out before they make a beachhead. Read more here. www.davidsenesac.com/Information/avoid_rhinoviruses.html
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Post by JiminMD on Sept 23, 2016 12:17:10 GMT -8
I know people who won't get the shot. It's mandatory where my wife works and STRONGLY encouraged where I work. I lost two ancestors to the 1918 Spanish Flu outbreak so I think that helps color my belief that influenza isn't something to play with. Trusted doctors tell me it's safe and the four strain vaccine is well designed so I go with them, but HYOH.
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Post by reuben on Sept 23, 2016 15:10:40 GMT -8
Y'all make me laugh. I've had shots for typhoid, yellow fever, hep a, hep b...
I skipped the malaria pills. Too much trouble.
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Post by Roger on Sept 23, 2016 15:33:50 GMT -8
As Dave said most people do not know the symptoms of influenza. You hear about stomach flu wich is not influenza nor are running nose etc. Physicians frequently misdiagnose illness as influenza when they are not. When I was working we had physicians send samples to our state lab for diagnoses. Most were not influenza. Years ago I did a study with the local medical examiner about sudden respiratory deaths in previously healthy folks. Influenza was found in a number of these cases and was not a suspected by the docs. I get my vaccine every year. It is not the most effective vaccine in the world but if the odds of getting sick are in my favor I will take it.
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Post by texasbb on Sept 23, 2016 15:58:21 GMT -8
It is not the most effective vaccine in the world An understatement, actually. In the best years it's maybe 60% effective. In a bad year it can be less than 20% effective. I do my other vaccines, but the flu shot doesn't impress me. Maybe it would if I held stock in one of the drug companies...
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Post by VAN on Sept 23, 2016 16:04:21 GMT -8
Ever since I started working in health care, I've had it. It's been almost 10 years. The year I were pregnant, I also got a swine flu vaccine
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Post by johntpenca on Sept 23, 2016 16:11:25 GMT -8
I take them every year with no worries. When was the last time you had a tetanus shot?
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Post by Roger on Sept 23, 2016 16:44:57 GMT -8
I had my last tetanus shot a little over 10 years ago. I got myalgia from the vaccine that lasted a few days and really reduced my functioning. Luckily NSAI calmed the symptoms. The data on how many tetanus vaccines you need to developing life long immunity is unknown. It is not the type of research one can ethically do. People who had several vaccinations just do not seem to get tetanus even when the time between last vaccine and puncture wound is greater than 10 years. Most cases of tetanus in the US are from those that came to the US as an adult and did not have the childhood vaccine. Saying that I would still get the vaccine if I had a puncture wound.
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