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Post by darthmusturd on Mar 11, 2022 20:53:49 GMT -8
So, we can all agree that rice is a pretty great base to a meal. It's a good carb. It's light. It's compact. It expands to 3 times it's size. It's healthy. It's delicious. I can go on. But, the biggest issue with rice is getting it to sustain you. So, what I propose is bringing along a jar of queso. Queso is very filling. It's very tasty. It's "healthy" and it's calorie rich. And it tastes really great with rice. I dont know how many of y'all have had rice with queso, but it's really really great. Keep in mind that I'm not talking about yellow nacho cheese. I'm talking about queso dip. However, I'm not sure how well that will sit with everyone. I will probably try that next opportunity I get for camping or an overnight hike. I don't imagine it will be bad, but some people have sensitive stomachs. Also, has anyone considered Gallo pinto? A nicaraguan friend of mine sent me the recipe for it a while back. It's one of my favorite meals. It's cheap to make. It's simple. It's versatile. You get good protein. It's shelf stable. I can go on. If someone has done this, please let me know how it went.
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Post by zeke on Mar 12, 2022 4:49:42 GMT -8
Rice, tuna, soy sauce. good dinner. Easy to fix with Minute Rice or dehydrated at home rice.
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Post by bluefish on Mar 12, 2022 5:38:46 GMT -8
I don't bring glass into wilderness areas, except for the ones on my face. A day hike in the "backyard" maybe. Rice, beans , chopped peppers and onions, spices, dehydrated with cheese. Complete protein, lightweight. Roll in a tortilla, if you want. Gallo Pinto is a variation on a very common theme.
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Post by darthmusturd on Mar 12, 2022 10:29:10 GMT -8
Rice, tuna, soy sauce. good dinner. Easy to fix with Minute Rice or dehydrated at home rice. Uncle Bens is the only good minute rice. No one can convince me otherwise. Mahatma is good, too, but I don't think it's considered Minute Rice. By the way, do you know of any good canned salmon? I've found it for cheap with the bones, the taste is good that way, but they seem to make it taste gritty to me. And other canned salmon without it is bitter. Anyone know of any good salmon without the bones? Or am I just better making it into jerky or something like that? Or pickling it. |
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Post by zeke on Mar 12, 2022 10:32:26 GMT -8
Salmon comes in foil pouches, also. Same aisle in your grocer as the tuna. I don't take anything canned these days, unless it's for a kayak camp trip.
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Post by darthmusturd on Mar 12, 2022 10:37:53 GMT -8
I don't bring glass into wilderness areas, except for the ones on my face. A day hike in the "backyard" maybe. Rice, beans , chopped peppers and onions, spices, dehydrated with cheese. Complete protein, lightweight. Roll in a tortilla, if you want. Gallo Pinto is a variation on a very common theme. I might make that today, actually. Just to try it and see how I like it. Probably won't dehydrate and rehydrate it, but, maybe another time. Need to come up with a good hiking/ backpacking dessert. Maybe even something rice based. Boil some rice for about 30 minutes, throw in some butter and cinnamon, and a little bit of brown sugar and shake it all up. But, I may just have to go with 20 minutes. My goal is to have rice mush. Maybe add in some vanilla. Or, if possible, use dehydrated milk and add that to the water before boiling. I'll come up with something. I know it. It may be absolutely vile and disgusting, but it'll be something. |
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Post by darthmusturd on Mar 12, 2022 10:38:47 GMT -8
Salmon comes in foil pouches, also. Same aisle in your grocer as the tuna. I don't take anything canned these days, unless it's for a kayak camp trip. Had the tuna version of those. I wasn't impressed. Fish seems to get very bitter when canned or pouched. However, the pouches probably save a lot of space and weight. Will try that. Thanks |
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Post by darthmusturd on Mar 12, 2022 12:45:18 GMT -8
Alright, so I made some Gallo pinto with cheese. It was absolutely vile. It was mostly because the cheese I had was very heavy on the peppers, so it had this super strong, nasty taste. But, I'll find a good queso that I like one of these days and try again.
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Post by ErnieW on Mar 13, 2022 5:51:51 GMT -8
I occasionally dehydrate salmon. One problem is that it ends up being too good. Gone in a flash. I just use salmon I get at Costco and then freeze and thaw it as an extra measure to kill anything in it (parasites mostly). I follow the below recipe. I definitely run the dehydrator on max temp to make everything is dead and all moisture is out. www.alaskafromscratch.com/2012/03/27/salmon-jerky/I also used to make hamburger jerky but haven't in a while. I would take very lean hamburger and mix in spices like garlic, Worcestershire, liquid smoke, etc. Then roll it thin between two sheets of wax paper then peel off one and use the other to "apply" it to the drier sheets. Again dry at max temp. What I like about this is that it is pretty easy. No trimming like if you are using beef chunks. Also since the meat fibers have been ground it is more tender. Both of these since they retain fat they are make then take for me. I don't ever plan on keeping them more than a week usually for fear of the fat going rancid. Again consuming this quickly hasn't been a problem.
P.S. The nice thing I like about the jerkies is that if you have some after a FD or rice meal it really increases satiation. But now proteins in the foil pack are generally what I use for this. The is a lot of variety available now.
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Post by jazzmom on Mar 13, 2022 6:31:59 GMT -8
Uncle Bens is the only good minute rice. No one can convince me otherwise. Mahatma is good, too, but I don't think it's considered Minute Rice. ? "Minute Rice" is its own brand, as are Uncle Ben's (which is officially "Ben's Original" now) and Mahatma. There are three rice product types -- "regular" rice that requires cooking/steaming 20+ minutes in water, the "ready to eat" pouches that are fully hydrated that you basically finish cooking in a minute or two, and the "just hydrate" rice that you add boiling water to and wait a few minutes. I tend to stick to this last category for backpacking and I prefer Minute Rice products for that. For me, backpacking rice based meals are usually something Asian, like a curry, either Indian or Thai. |
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Post by darthmusturd on Mar 13, 2022 9:26:51 GMT -8
Uncle Bens is the only good minute rice. No one can convince me otherwise. Mahatma is good, too, but I don't think it's considered Minute Rice. ? "Minute Rice" is its own brand, as are Uncle Ben's (which is officially "Ben's Original" now) and Mahatma. There are three rice product types -- "regular" rice that requires cooking/steaming 20+ minutes in water, the "ready to eat" pouches that are fully hydrated that you basically finish cooking in a minute or two, and the "just hydrate" rice that you add boiling water to and wait a few minutes. I tend to stick to this last category for backpacking and I prefer Minute Rice products for that. For me, backpacking rice based meals are usually something Asian, like a curry, either Indian or Thai. You are indeed correct on that. I don't get rice that isn't Uncle Bens, or, as said, Mahatma in a pinch. The only thing with Indian and Thai food to me is that it's usually too complex or overly spicy. It's like they just add too much stuff to their meals, which I understand is because of the hot climate and need to spice their meals, but a lot of the meals just have too many ingredients that aren't spice to me. Mostly I'm thinking of Thai food. Maybe it's different with actual Thai food from Thailand (which, apparently, is not Taiwan. It would appear that I need to write some apology letters to some certain people in Asia) but we have what is supposed to be a pretty authentic Thai restaurant in my town run by actual people from Thailand, and it's almost like they just have to overcomplicate and "fancily" things and it really takes away from the meals to me. Japanese food is really the only Asian food I actually like, not including sushi, and I've had both western and traditional sushi. Anyhow, enough of my rant on southern Asian food... There's just something magical about sitting down to cook rice for 15-20 minutes or so that I wouldn't trade for the world. Or the convenience of an inferior rice product. Uncle Bens for the win!!!! You can try to disagree with me because "well, doesn't all rice really taste and feel the same when it's cooked?" NO, Uncle Ben's is the best in flavor and in texture. It's a subtle difference that really makes a meal special. |
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Post by jazzmom on Mar 13, 2022 9:58:10 GMT -8
You can try to disagree with me because "well, doesn't all rice really taste and feel the same when it's cooked?" NO, Uncle Ben's is the best in flavor and in texture. It's a subtle difference that really makes a meal special. Good lord, no. I'm Japanese. Rice is our culture. I think rice preference is mostly about what you grew up with. You're not going to find many Japanese people who'll voluntarily eat Uncle Ben's. I buy Minute Rice when making backpacking meals; never touch it otherwise. |
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Post by zeke on Mar 13, 2022 10:09:14 GMT -8
I'm an older white male, who seldom had rice as a child. I think that came from my stepfather wanting nothing to do with anything Japanese, or Asian really, because of WW2. It didn't help that he was called back up during the Korean Conflict.
As an adult, I have discovered a fondness for sticky rice, yellow rice, wild rice, pretty much anything not Instant (Minute). I will buy Minute rice for backpacking meals, but even then I buy the brown rice that has appeared within the last decade or so.
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Post by ErnieW on Mar 13, 2022 11:06:46 GMT -8
I have been experimenting with using instant mashed potatoes instead of instant rice. So far anything that can be added to a bowl of rice tastes pretty good mixed into mashed potatoes. The instant potatoes come out like real mashed potatoes generally. Can't say the same about instant rice.
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Post by darthmusturd on Mar 13, 2022 12:24:09 GMT -8
I have been experimenting with using instant mashed potatoes instead of instant rice. So far anything that can be added to a bowl of rice tastes pretty good mixed into mashed potatoes. The instant potatoes come out like real mashed potatoes generally. Can't say the same about instant rice. someone needs to delete this post. you just about killed me on the inside with instant mashed potatoes. that is an affront to my southernness and my Christianity and all that is good and holy. I have no words to express how deeply disappointed I am with you. |
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