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Post by franco on Sept 27, 2021 18:11:58 GMT -8
Interesting if true : Duane "Dog the Bounty Hunter" Chapman is investigating a tip that alleges Brian Laundrie, the fugitive fiancé of Gabby Petito, went into a Florida campground 75 miles away with his parents in early September — but only two of them were seen leaving.
Chapman announced Saturday he was entering the search for Laundrie, and tips quickly poured in. He told Fox News he received a tip on Monday that Laundrie’s parents spent the night in Fort De Soto Park with their son twice in early September from Sept. 1-3 and Sept. 6-8.
"They were registered, went through the gate. They’re on camera. They were here," he told Fox News exclusively on Monday evening. "We think at least if he’s not here right now, we are sure he was caught on camera as he went in the gate — that he was here for sure. Not over in the swamp." A few days ago there was a report of a nighbour of theirs saying he saw the three leaving their house with a new campervan of sorts.
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Post by Travis on Sept 27, 2021 19:13:36 GMT -8
A few days ago there was a report of a nighbour of theirs saying he saw the three leaving their house with a new campervan of sorts. I heard something to this effect at that time but never heard more about it. I know next to nothing about Chapman as far as credibility goes.
One thing that I'm not clear on is whether it's been confirmed that the boyfriend did come home on Sept 1, The September 1st date was confirmed by traffic-camera license-plate readers. Laundrie was in his hometown North Port, in Gabby Petito's van by mid-morning Sept 1st. If he and parents went camping in a different camper van on the 1st, it would likely be that afternoon. I'll be interested in seeing how this report turns out.
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Post by BigLoad on Sept 27, 2021 19:43:55 GMT -8
The moment he was reported to have left home, I suspected his parents and the lawyer abetted his escape. It didn't seem plausible that his mom would just let him take her car with apparently no discussion about when she would get it back. I'd be surprised if he's still in the US.
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Post by bradmacmt on Sept 28, 2021 5:32:57 GMT -8
Far too many women hook themselves up with and even marry abusive, controlling men or other forms of bastard. I sometimes think we are hormonally driven to make stupid choices. I wouldn't say "hormonally", I'd say unconsciously. Women often marry their fathers and men often marry their mothers - or a combination of the two. The idea is your parents and their relationship is what you're unconsciously comfortable/familiar with (or trying to please), even if your parents - or their relationship - was toxic. Men marry abusive women too...
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Post by Travis on Sept 28, 2021 7:10:20 GMT -8
. . . I sometimes think we are hormonally driven to make stupid choices. I do my best to make stupid choices free of hormonal influence.
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Post by trinity on Sept 28, 2021 7:19:35 GMT -8
I sometimes think we are hormonally driven to make stupid choices. If by "we" you mean both men and women, then I guess I wouldn't disagree. But because I am married to a long-time domestic abuse counselor, I try to be careful not to blame the victim. I know that's not what you're doing, but just want to clarify that Ms. Petito is not, IMHO, to blame for getting murdered.
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Post by Hungry Jack on Sept 28, 2021 8:34:56 GMT -8
Hard to believe they were engaged to be married. Far too many women hook themselves up with and even marry abusive, controlling men or other forms of bastard. I sometimes think we are hormonally driven to make stupid choices. Men should come with warning labels
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Post by echo on Sept 28, 2021 9:50:41 GMT -8
I think, based on the romantic choices of my friends and I , wether in real life or in the books and movies we are attracted to, that there is a definite appeal to a dangerous partner. There is probably a Darwin theory that we evolve to seek the strong partner who can be protection from dangerous outsiders, and hopefully they will use that strength to protect us rather than abuse us. It’s a bit of the sense of barely taming a wild Tiger and keeping it in your home. It’s why teenaged girls loved the idea of having a vampire love them. But outside the Twilight novels, real life doesn’t offer us that many monsters who want to hurt anyone else but protect you. I’m not blaming Gabby for her own fate but still, you can see that she did have a chance to get away at least the night the police separated them, and still felt like she had to stay.
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Post by BigLoad on Sept 28, 2021 10:18:21 GMT -8
you can see that she did have a chance to get away at least the night the police separated them, and still felt like she had to stay She probably felt there was too much at stake. Because of the whole influencer thing, it would be more than just ending a bad relationship,it would threaten her sense of identity and her path to success, and it would be quite public. That would be almost unendurable for somebody to whom public perception was so important. I'm not blaming her for being that way, just noting that it's a characteristic that a bad partner can exploit.
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Post by Travis on Sept 28, 2021 13:21:57 GMT -8
I think it is too easy to oversimplify abusive relationships when the situation can seem unfathomably complex for the victim trapped in the relationship. Early reports said the van the two were traveling in belonged to Gabby Petito, but it seemed lazy journalism drifted into calling it "the couple's van." Either way, if she leaves him 2400 miles from home because she decides to exit the relationship, she no longer has a place to live in Florida.
What happens when he calls his parents and tells some story about how she abandoned him in the middle of nowhere? Everything she owns and values may be stored in his parents' home. Will they sympathize with her and allow her time to drive back to Florida, get her stuff, and move? Or will they be angry, destroy her stuff, toss it in the trash, or what? Nothing I see reported shows Brian Laundrie's parents have much sympathy for her even after her death.
And what is she supposed to tell the parents? "Your son slapped me around in Utah. I just know he'll kill me and leave my body to rot in some god-forsaken wilderness while he drives home — if I don't leave him. I have no choice but to leave him." And they are going to tell her, "He's right. You need to calm down."
Then add all BigLoad's considerations above and many others. It's not just as simple as scheduling a counseling session in Utah and getting some help, negotiating a schedule to retrieve her stuff from the parents' house, and all is okay. On the outside, it can seem so simple: boy slaps girl, girl decides relationship over. I said on page two of this thread that she, like untold thousands of women (or men), was trapped in an abusive relationship. Traps are not simple problems where she just finds the release lever and steps out.
She can sit in a daze in Utah or Wyoming and think this out endlessly, but she just wears out her mind trying to find an exit. So she defaults to doing nothing until she finds a solution — or is killed along a remote creek in Wyoming and left to rot for two weeks while the boy-so-called-friend goes home and pretends all is well. What can seem simple on the outside: "Just leave!" is too complex on the inside. And just calming down was not the solution.
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Post by rebeccad on Sept 28, 2021 14:34:32 GMT -8
I didn’t at all mean to say that the victim is to blame. Just musing about the question raised about why or how a person gets so tangled up with an abuser they can’t leave. Travis summed it up well. And no one thinks at the beginning of a relationship, “he’s going to beat the snot out of me and probably kill me, but dang, I’m going to move in with him anyway.” Even when a person knows their potential partner has abused someone else, there is that hope/delusion that “I’ll be different.”
It’s easy for me to imagine that the first time a man lifted a hand to me I’d be out of there. Do I know what I’d really do? How long it would take me to recognize an abusive situation? I’ve seen enough of that complexity to know that there are no guarantees that we’re as smart as we think we are.
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Post by franco on Sept 28, 2021 15:09:48 GMT -8
Some use the expression myopic (short sighted) for not being able to see the problem but I tend to think that often we can't see it because we are too close .
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Post by swimswithtrout on Sept 28, 2021 16:08:33 GMT -8
I am along with BigLoad. Far too many young people's whole existence is now being that of an "influencer", and documenting their entire life on social media and making a lucrative living off of it. The "Van Life" movement is HUGE....
Gabby was stuck between an abusive relationship, and her whole sense of being/influencer life style..
She had no easy out....
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Post by echo on Sept 28, 2021 21:14:25 GMT -8
It reminds me of that other woman with a social media following, and two beautiful daughters and a baby boy on the way. And her husband killed her and the kids and dumped them out in the oil patch. Shanann Watts. My kids and husband get annoyed at times with the things I share or pictures I post and I’m far from having a following, so I know that just a little media post can blow up into huge hurt feelings and tension. Choosing that as a lifestyle would be like choosing to live on stage in the proverbial fishbowl
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Post by walkswithblackflies on Oct 4, 2021 9:31:45 GMT -8
Comment on Fox News:
theotherlannister 25 minutes ago
I understand that Laundrie was vaccinated - why can't the authorities use the tracking system?
LOL!
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