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Post by BigLoad on Sept 23, 2021 15:13:45 GMT -8
for using Gabby Petito's debit card after her death Which implies that a date of death has been determined. To my knowledge, authorities still haven't said anything meaningful about her cell phone, his cell phone, or service provider records pertaining to either.
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Post by Travis on Sept 23, 2021 17:15:47 GMT -8
To my knowledge, authorities still haven't said anything meaningful about her cell phone, his cell phone, or service provider records pertaining to either. I think you are right. I suspect they have the service provider records but may not have ever gained possession of either cell phone because Laundrie kept both or disposed of hers, etc. Or law enforcement is keeping some information from going public to safe guard the investigation.
As I recall, one of the fights between Petito and Laundrie was over his refusal to give her her own cell phone. But all that is mixed up with lack of clear reporting on various incidents.
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Post by BigLoad on Sept 23, 2021 18:14:58 GMT -8
I expect that to provide useful evidence. My hypothesis is that he kept her phone for several days in his second attempt to create a false alibi. If he wasn't careful enough, both phones could have connected to the same base stations at the same times, perhaps in locations far from where they were camped (e.g. on 8/30).
Also, if his parents are found to have arranged for his escape and know that he isn't (and perhaps was only momentarily) where authorities are searching, I hope they get billed for the cost.
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Post by balzaccom on Sept 23, 2021 18:15:38 GMT -8
As I recall, one of the fights between Petito and Laundrie was over his refusal to give her her own cell phone. Yow. What was your first clue that this relationship was not healthy?
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Post by starwalker on Sept 23, 2021 20:03:58 GMT -8
I have a Cherokee friend whose daughter went missing in 1996. I saw nothing in the local newspapers or TV stations about it.
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Post by franco on Sept 23, 2021 21:36:16 GMT -8
I had a look at some Australian statistics. Under : How many people go missing ? In 2020 over 51,000 missing persons reports were made to police in Australia, that’s over 140 missing events a day. Over 98% of people reported missing are located, and almost all of those found are found alive and well.www.missingpersons.gov.au/about/myths-and-factsso that means that around 1000 were not found. I doubt that many Australians could name more than one or two and I doubt very much that the rest are all or mostly non -white. I think that it is very much like with suicides. When I was doing some freelance work for the major Melbourne paper (The Sun Herald) I was told that as a rule suicides are not reported. Over the years two workmates killed themselves (unrelated to the work situation and each other) neither made the papers. However if a known to the public person does it, in that case it is reported. Gabby was one of those "known people". BTW, around 600k people are reported missing in the USA every year.
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Post by BigLoad on Sept 25, 2021 8:50:18 GMT -8
Another piece of evidence that looks bad for Laundrie. He seems to have made numerous mistakes, but I suppose that's not unusual. link
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Post by swmtnbackpacker on Sept 26, 2021 10:36:05 GMT -8
…reported missing in the USA every year. Also the now-deceased was a young person wanting to be an “influencer”, so the social media presence was already brewing when the crime occurred. A young fit woman with a social media trail has a head start in regular media over a “regular” non-descript person, a person who may not want to be located for whatever reason (some will get judgemental) , or an older person/woman (equally sad but not as tragic when an older person goes missing). There is some valid points about BIPOC missing persons not be raised as much in the media ( here), but think we cannot discount the victim’s social media presence, with a plethora of pictures, how these tend to be young, fit women, etc.. either. Fwiw, think any good-looking young woman wannabe-influencer of any ethnicity missing under similar circumstances would get more media attention. There are BIPOC-LBGTQ vanlifers-wannabe influencers of all combinations out there. Here’s a realistic look of the challenges they face with various partners mostly getting “alone” time, economic quarrels, etc.. … www.cnn.com/2021/09/25/us/van-life-couples-gabby-petito/index.html
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Post by balzaccom on Sept 26, 2021 14:10:24 GMT -8
2000 Maxima? I'd say you no longer need an anit-theft system, but that chain drive V6 is good for at least another 100K. The newer Nissans have crappy CVT transmissions, but motors are still rock solid. I have two, a 2008 ALtima SE (3.5L V6 with 6 spd MT, and a 2017 Frontier 4L with 6 spd MT. The 2008 has 280K+ miles on it and is still running strong. Just put new struts on it this weekend. The TPS system has failed, who cares about that crap. So I have to use a tire pressure gauge to check the air. So what? These newer cars with all the bells and whistles just mean that there are more things to fail as they start to age. The current leader in the non sequitur category for 2021...and only three months to go!
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Post by Lamebeaver on Sept 26, 2021 14:24:36 GMT -8
Needless to say, posted under the wrong category. It's been deleted.
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Post by franco on Sept 26, 2021 14:59:36 GMT -8
…reported missing in the USA every year. Also the now-deceased was a young person wanting to be an “influencer”, so the social media presence was already brewing when the crime occurred. A young fit woman with a social media trail has a head start in regular media over a “regular” non-descript person, a person who may not want to be located for whatever reason (some will get judgemental) , or an older person/woman (equally sad but not as tragic when an older person goes missing). There is some valid points about BIPOC missing persons not be raised as much in the media ( here), but think we cannot discount the victim’s social media presence, with a plethora of pictures, how these tend to be young, fit women, etc.. either. Fwiw, think any good-looking young woman wannabe-influencer of any ethnicity missing under similar circumstances would get more media attention. There are BIPOC-LBGTQ vanlifers-wannabe influencers of all combinations out there. Here’s a realistic look of the challenges they face with various partners mostly getting “alone” time, economic quarrels, etc.. … www.cnn.com/2021/09/25/us/van-life-couples-gabby-petito/index.htmlSimilar to this , as an example :https://au.news.yahoo.com/chinese-influencer-falls-to-her-death-from-crane-while-filming-live-video-215550671.htmlher death was not reported because she is Chinese, or just young and beutiful (if that look is to you...) but because of the way she died and the fact that she had an on line following. No need to attach a racist slant to everything that is reported.
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Post by Travis on Sept 26, 2021 19:09:34 GMT -8
her death was not reported because she is Chinese, or just young and beutiful (if that look is to you...) but because of the way she died and the fact that she had an on line following. No need to attach a racist slant to everything that is reported. No one in this thread to my recollection has come anywhere near attaching "a racist slant to everything that is reported." But the fact is that some Indian Reservations are centers of poverty, and those who disappear from those reservations did not have the financial means or electronic equipment to establish an online presence so thorough as Gabby Petito did. You yourself are claiming an online following improves the chances a death will receive greater news coverage. Whether it is race, ethnic identity, or simply "heritage," some people have greater opportunity to establish an online presence that will appeal or interest a wider rage of the reading, viewing public. I attributed that in large measure to the fantasy Gabby Petito was able to portray to a large following. I believe an attractive Native American might have done that as well as Gabby Petito — if the Native had the financial means to do so. But, for whatever reason, a large portion of Native Americans live in poverty and do not have the financial means. I don't believe for one second that there is a racist slant to everything that is reported. But neither am I going to claim there is no racism in America. And I don't think you will either.
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Post by Travis on Sept 26, 2021 19:23:55 GMT -8
By the way, Gabby Petito did not really go missing in Wyoming any more than she went missing from other states she passed through. The problems brewing between Petito and Laundrie merely came to a climax in Wyoming. That was coincidence. She was reported missing from New York and did not arrive home in Florida.
She was found in Wyoming because another person from Florida discovered her van. There were tips received from many states that Petito and Laundrie passed through. The thoroughness of the reporting and search in Wyoming was largely due to the value of the tip from the Florida couple and the highly experienced search parties from Teton County. Why a news article focused on what it seemed to consider a Wyoming problem is beyond me. They could have written the same things about multiple states. It had very little to do with Wyoming in particular.
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Post by Hungry Jack on Sept 27, 2021 12:42:24 GMT -8
By the way, Gabby Petito did not really go missing in Wyoming any more than she went missing from other states she passed through. The problems brewing between Petito and Laundrie merely came to a climax in Wyoming. That was coincidence. She was reported missing from New York and did not arrive home in Florida.
She was found in Wyoming because another person from Florida discovered her van. There were tips received from many states that Petito and Laundrie passed through. The thoroughness of the reporting and search in Wyoming was largely due to the value of the tip from the Florida couple and the highly experienced search parties from Teton County. Why a news article focused on what it seemed to consider a Wyoming problem is beyond me. They could have written the same things about multiple states. It had very little to do with Wyoming in particular. Nothing to do with Wyoming, other than maybe a good place to hide a body. Is there anyone who questions that Laundrie is the killer? I am starting to believe he won't be found alive. Such a terrible story. Hard to believe they were engaged to be married.
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Post by rebeccad on Sept 27, 2021 12:52:46 GMT -8
Hard to believe they were engaged to be married. Far too many women hook themselves up with and even marry abusive, controlling men or other forms of bastard. I sometimes think we are hormonally driven to make stupid choices.
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