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Post by sqwib on Jul 6, 2015 8:23:23 GMT -8
BRS 3000T: 0.88 oz.(25g) Borrowed picture, I think its from Backpacking Light Forum, anyhow Kudos for the individual who took the picture. Fire Maple Hornet (Left) - BRS 3000T (Right)  Stoves have been an ongoing endeavor with me from the extremely heavy "Coleman Exponent to the UL worthy "Fire Maple Hornet". Well...I'm back again to reduce a bit more weight. Stove Journey 2003 - 2014 Coleman Stove: 21.60 oz.(612g) 2013 - 2014 Solo Stove: 9.00 oz.(255g) 2013 - 2014 Alcohol Stove: 0.01 oz.(.28g) 2013 - 2014 Canister Stove: 3.90 oz.(111g) 2014 - 2015 Fire Maple Hornet: 1.60 oz.(45g) savings 20 oz.(567g) 2015 - 2015 BRS 3000T: 0.88 oz.(280g) savings 20.72 oz.(587g) Stove Breakdown:includes fuel with the exception of the Solo Stove 2003 - 2014 Coleman Stove: 32.00 oz.(908g) 2013 - 2014 Solo Stove: 9.00 oz.(255g) 2013 - 2014 Alcohol Stove: 8.00 oz.(227g) 2013 - 2014 Canister Stove: 17.00 oz.(482g) 2014 - 2015 Fire Maple Hornet: 10.60 oz.(300g) savings 21.4 oz.(607g) 2015 - 2015 BRS 3000T: 9.88 oz.(25g) savings 22.12 oz.(627g) Since my original Pinchot trip using my Coleman Exponet, I have reduced my stove weight by 20. oz. (567g) I am at it again after ordering several BRS 3000T stoves this will bring me down to an .88 oz stove. Has anyone tried the BRS 3000T? What are your likes and dislikes? |
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Post by zeke on Jul 6, 2015 9:00:13 GMT -8
I am perfectly happy with my White Box stove. Alcohol, quiet, and I always know how much fuel is left. I used to carry a Pocket Rocket, and the accompanying steel canister. No longer.
WB stove-- 1 oz
bottle to carry fuel-- 1 oz
Fuel for 7 days-- 6 oz (which leaves me 1 day spare, just in case) {1 hot meal per day @ 14 ounces of boiling water}
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Post by High Sierra Fan on Jul 6, 2015 9:57:03 GMT -8
Yosemite has started to allow alcohol stoves during its fire restrictions. Previously the stove needed a valve control. "By order of the Superintendent Yosemite National Park and under authority of Title 36, Code of Federal Regulations, and Section 2.13(c): No building, maintaining, attending or using a fire, campfire, or cooking fire (including charcoal fires) within Yosemite National Park including designated Wilderness and at High Sierra Camps below 6,000 feet in elevation. Portable stoves using pressurized gas, liquid fuel, or propane are permitted as are alcohol stoves (with and without a shutoff valve) including alcohol tablet/cube stoves. "Sierra" (twig) stoves are not permitted." www.nps.gov/yose/blogs/Yosemite-Fire-Restrictions.htmWhich eliminates one advantage those miroburners used to have over alcohol. |
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Post by talus on Jul 6, 2015 10:02:31 GMT -8
I bought a BRS 3000. They are pretty nifty and at about 15 bucks super affordable. I must be an idiot, but I can't seem to get my White Box to work very efficiently.
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Post by zeke on Jul 6, 2015 10:38:16 GMT -8
I bought a BRS 3000. They are pretty nifty and at about 15 bucks super affordable. I must be an idiot, but I can't seem to get my White Box to work very efficiently.
If you cannot get jets out of the side, I would send a note to the maker and ask if there is something you can do or if it needs to go back? It also needs a pot with a 6 inch base to optimize the heating pattern. |
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Post by rebeccad on Jul 6, 2015 10:58:07 GMT -8
Just did 5 days/4 nights in the Sierra, and boiled water for 3 of use for 4 dinners/4 breakfasts (with drinks, mostly) using just under 16 oz. of alcohol. 2 oz boils my 1.5 liter pot, usually with some fuel leftover. That potful is enough for a full meal for 3, though I'd have been comfortable to have had a couple ounces more fuel along, to allow for extra hot drinks if needed. We came home with about 1 oz. Regarding efficiency, the WB isn't a blowtorch. It takes a bit of time to boil that full pot. If I can, I like to set up the pot (which is black) in the sun and let that preheat some, which also saves fuel. I wouldn't build that into my fuel supply, but allow little savings like that to provide some slack for that extra cup of tea or cocoa  |
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Post by rebeccad on Jul 6, 2015 11:01:39 GMT -8
Apropos of this discussion, though--Zeke or any others, have you ever used a larger pot on an alky stove? I may be cooking for 5 on our next trip, and the 1.5 ltr pot won't cut it. I can do two boils, of course, but I think (check me on this, too) that it is more efficient to do one in a larger pot.
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Post by High Sierra Fan on Jul 6, 2015 11:11:21 GMT -8
rebeccad How about using a second burner under the one pot?
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Post by talus on Jul 6, 2015 11:25:28 GMT -8
I've mainly used mine in cold weather-does efficiency drop off drastically around freezing?
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Post by zeke on Jul 6, 2015 11:33:12 GMT -8
Apropos of this discussion, though--Zeke or any others, have you ever used a larger pot on an alky stove? I can do two boils, of course, but I think (check me on this, too) that it is more efficient to do one in a larger pot. ETA: As it turns out, pure science says it is exactly the same, 1 pot or 2. Same amount of water needs to get to boiling. WB stoves are optimal for 1- 1.5L pots. Bigger than that and the reservoir is too small, requiring a refill. If Rebecca needs a second WB, she can borrow mine. |
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Post by zeke on Jul 6, 2015 11:44:20 GMT -8
I've mainly used mine in cold weather-does efficiency drop off drastically around freezing? |
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Post by talus on Jul 6, 2015 11:51:39 GMT -8
I use the windscreen that comes with the stove. We use a 1.8 l GSI aluminum pot. I've never had trouble getting it to "bloom", it just takes a lot of fuel to get a boil. I'm not a naturally patient person, so I don't do a lot of experimenting to find an ideal situation. I think that's why canister stoves appeal to me...
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Post by talus on Jul 6, 2015 11:59:29 GMT -8
Sorry about the hijack...
The only thing I don't like about the BRS is the small flame pattern. I think it is best suited for narrow pots. I get a much quicker boil with my Giga Power.
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Post by zeke on Jul 6, 2015 12:01:30 GMT -8
What fuel? Yellow Heet burns less efficiently than the denatured alcohol I buy in my hardware store. No idea why, as they are supposed to be the same alcohol.
Also, sit the stove up off the ground, off the snow. I use a small circle of 1/4" plywood, about 6 inches diameter.
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Post by talus on Jul 6, 2015 12:07:31 GMT -8
I use denatured alcohol. I'll trying keeping everything warmer.
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