tomas
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Post by tomas on Jan 23, 2019 8:38:29 GMT -8
Nothing ive said makes me utterly incopetent You want to start a poll and ask the audience? I said if I cant properly tringulate my location my return bearing will be way off and will only get me more lost Nor will it show me back to the trail, instead it will point back to my car in a straight line which does me little good if the terrain is uneven or if I want to go back to the last point I got lost in Not knowing how to use a map isn't the fault of the map. Every single thing I have said so far as a fact Hey, you can start a second poll!
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Post by Lamebeaver on Jan 23, 2019 8:44:41 GMT -8
Nothing ive said makes me utterly incopetent No, pretty much everything you've said indicates that you are utterly incompetent. You are completely ignorant regarding navigation with a map and compass. Experienced people have offered useful suggestions, which you either ignore or dispute, and then reply with insults. In short you don't have a clue, and you don't even have a clue that you don't have a clue.
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reuben
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Post by reuben on Jan 23, 2019 8:54:57 GMT -8
I said if I cant properly tringulate my location my return bearing will be way off and will only get me more lost How will a big ass knife and a gun help you determine your location and return bearing?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 23, 2019 9:04:12 GMT -8
See the trail: ? I can guarantee that at 5 miles per day you'd reach this spot in 5 days. That spot is not near a car nor is there phone service nor is there a trail and to get there we used map, compass and GPS. My wife and I went in capable and ready to handle a lot of emergencies We did not frack around with non-sense. Getting to that spot was a serious undertaking. If we did not make it back, the ranger would not even notice for a long time. Whiles we did fill out a permit indicating where we went, they'd, most likely not find us. Many of us here, on this site, in this forum are quite capable of taking care of ourselves in such a situation. Respect is given when respect if due. And don't come here telling us how to do the whole backpacking thing and go into the woods, when you can barely use a map and compass and got lost being less then 5 miles from your starting point. Especially, when I can make my way to that place, Lower Ramey Meadows, in 2.5 days with backpack, 7 days of food, and all the equipment to, not only survive, but have a great time. So, mellow out and be prepared to learn something about backpacking.
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desert dweller
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Post by desert dweller on Jan 23, 2019 9:08:35 GMT -8
I feel the same way about you old fart I understand what you were saying you were saying Well, you blew that. If anyone was going to give you some benefit of the doubt, it would have been me. As far as posting on boards go, here are a couple of suggestions. One: be confident with what you are saying. Two: try using proper grammar and punctuation. Three: read what you have written before posting it and see if it makes sense. Four: name calling and using foul language are signs of weakness and do nothing to get your point across.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 23, 2019 9:55:18 GMT -8
To add, the last 5 survivalist I ran into, in the backcountry, all wanted the same thing. Do I know where they are at, do I have any spare food, do I have any water, how far away is the trailhead. I've, so far, never asked a survivalist...
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driftwoody
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Post by driftwoody on Jan 23, 2019 10:04:08 GMT -8
I said if I cant properly tringulate my location my return bearing will be way off and will only get me more lost I'm not sure if you've already answered this, but if you never intend to go more than 5 miles into the woods, what is your purpose for going into the woods in the first place? I assume you don't intend to spend the night, but just want to be prepared if you have to unexpectedly.
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swiftdream
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Post by swiftdream on Jan 23, 2019 10:10:38 GMT -8
I said if I cant properly tringulate my location my return bearing will be way off and will only get me more lost How will a big ass knife and a gun help you determine your location and return bearing? Problem solved. The big ass knife is throwing this pilgrim’s compass off.
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Post by ecocentric on Jan 23, 2019 10:20:08 GMT -8
During the brief 50 years that I've adventured in the wilderness, I've seen far more need for medical first responder training and a good, simple, first aid kit. During my misspent youth, scouting taught me a knot for every purpose, how to construct things using lashing. How to sharpen a knife and all of that useless map and compass stuff that I'm just now learning doesn't work. My grandpa taught me how to fish, and clean fish, hunt and clean rabbits and squirrel. The edible and medicinal plants came along with a botany degree. I haven't hunted in years, I hike in the woods 3 or 4 times a week. I've improvised shelter using a square tarp, dug snow caves, and I'm pretty handy at building an igloo, my preferred winter shelter. In fact, digging in and setting up winter base camps is a great opportunity to get creative with snow construction. Ya know, there just isn't any wood to build a fire with on a winter climb. A good sleeping bag has kept me toasty at -25°.
But seriously, if you go out in the wilds much, first responder training, there is a chance you will save someone's life with it.
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swiftdream
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Post by swiftdream on Jan 23, 2019 10:30:09 GMT -8
Danny, there is a compass technique that I have used successfully in situations such as your terrain. It is called aiming off. Pay attention on the way in and observe your compass. On the way out use the “aiming off” technique. It works.
I’m not going to describe it to you here because I’m not sure you will even listen or try to learn. You have had 24 hrs now to research and try some of these techniques we all have tried to help you with. Now it is time to help your self. Try putting all that self doubt aside and accomplish one thing today and you will feel a whole lot better about yourself.
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danny
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Post by danny on Jan 23, 2019 10:32:15 GMT -8
See the trail: ? I can guarantee that at 5 miles per day you'd reach this spot in 5 days. That spot is not near a car nor is there phone service nor is there a trail and to get there we used map, compass and GPS. My wife and I went in capable and ready to handle a lot of emergencies We did not frack around with non-sense. Getting to that spot was a serious undertaking. If we did not make it back, the ranger would not even notice for a long time. Whiles we did fill out a permit indicating where we went, they'd, most likely not find us. Many of us here, on this site, in this forum are quite capable of taking care of ourselves in such a situation. Respect is given when respect if due. And don't come here telling us how to do the whole backpacking thing and go into the woods, when you can barely use a map and compass and got lost being less then 5 miles from your starting point. Especially, when I can make my way to that place, Lower Ramey Meadows, in 2.5 days with backpack, 7 days of food, and all the equipment to, not only survive, but have a great time. So, mellow out and be prepared to learn something about backpacking. I was going to leave this thing alone but now I can't cuz you're annoying me your entire post you said absolutely nothing or any help you said absolutely nothing
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danny
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Post by danny on Jan 23, 2019 10:37:48 GMT -8
I said if I cant properly tringulate my location my return bearing will be way off and will only get me more lost I'm not sure if you've already answered this, but if you never intend to go more than 5 miles into the woods, what is your purpose for going into the woods in the first place? I assume you don't intend to spend the night, but just want to be prepared if you have to unexpectedly. Yes in case really really really lost happens in the first place half of this thread was me arguing with you people about how I got really really lost in the first place I understand how you're supposed to use the map and Compass and that the whole point is to try not to get lost in the first place by my point was stuff happens I was asking for after I get really really lost not how stuff happened
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Post by danny on Jan 23, 2019 10:42:26 GMT -8
Danny, there is a compass technique that I have used successfully in situations such as your terrain. It is called aiming off. Pay attention on the way in and observe your compass. On the way out use the “aiming off” technique. It works. I’m not going to describe it to you here because I’m not sure you will even listen or try to learn. You have had 24 hrs now to research and try some of these techniques we all have tried to help you with. Now it is time to help your self. Try putting all that self doubt aside and accomplish one thing today and you will feel a whole lot better about yourself. Ban me from this site now delete my account
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bp2go
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Post by bp2go on Jan 23, 2019 10:50:04 GMT -8
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driftwoody
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Post by driftwoody on Jan 23, 2019 10:55:38 GMT -8
Good move, but did he ever say why he goes into the woods in the first place?
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