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Post by johntpenca on Sept 26, 2019 11:11:02 GMT -8
Whatever happened to the poster that went by "eggs". When I first saw this thread I thought he was terrorizing forum members.
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desert dweller
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Post by desert dweller on Sept 26, 2019 11:19:32 GMT -8
Sometimes there's just no accounting or factoring in someone's diet when other forces are powerful determinants. It's certainly heredity for our family. All eight of my mom's brothers and sisters had heart attacks in their '50's. Mom lived till 92 because she was lucky enough to get a heart bypass when she was 60. Her cholesterol levels were over 300 when she wasn't on medication. My dad's side mostly have had strokes. Dad lived till 80 but had heart valve problems for the last 10 years. I eat pretty well, ride the bike everyday, still backpack carrying 50 pounds for days. But my blood pressure and cholesterol levels are high. Nothing I could do would have an affect. I let the doctor and pharma consultant talk me into taking pills last year. I told them as long as my lifestyle wasn't affected I'd give it a try. The medication brought things down to within acceptable limits without compromise in my activities. One thing about our parents generation is that most of them smoked and ate lots of meat, cheese and potatoes. They were lied to about cigarettes and no one really knew about how food influenced health. They didn't stand a chance. I've always said that diet, attitude and exercise are key. At least, that's what I'm going for.
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Post by autumnmist on Sept 26, 2019 12:21:00 GMT -8
desert dweller , your family's history makes me think (w/o having done any research on this topic) that some specific vulnerabilities are also passed down genetically. And you're right about our parents' generation; there were so many contributing factors to health of people in that age group, including things like asbestos exposure. I remember my father telling us that he intended to quit smoking (which he did) after the Surgeon General required a hazards warning on cigarettes. Until then, he didn't know about the hazards, nor did others. Companies got away with so much back in those days. But still dangers lurk and aren't discovered until use is more widespread. Cf. vaping, for example. Now class action suits help publicize the dangers of additives, substances, and other hazards.
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Post by cweston on Sept 26, 2019 12:30:03 GMT -8
I agree about the genetic component. I think the the pseudo-medical dietary complex routinely oversells the extent to which unfavorable blood lipid profiles can be "fixed" by diet and exercise. Not every family seems to have these strong hereditary components, but if your does, there's only so much you can do with diet and exercise to modulate it.
I've always had the exact same lipid profile as my Dad and all three of his brothers (all of whom died of heart disease): low total cholesterol, but low HDL, and high triglycerides. I've done a better job with diet and exercise than any of them did, but that's never moved the numbers anything but subtly. I eat well and exercise, and am by all tangible evidence in excellent shape for my age (55), but a day rarely passes that I don't think about this genetic "gift." My Dad had quintuple bypass surgery at age 52. (He lived another 25 years, thankfully.) Two of my three uncles died of heart attacks in their 60s.
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Post by reuben on Sept 27, 2019 12:09:57 GMT -8
Whatever happened to the poster that went by "eggs". When I first saw this thread I thought he was terrorizing forum members. I don't know, but I bought an Optimus Crux stove from him. It's a good stove, and he's a good egg.
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