Woodsie
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Post by Woodsie on Aug 31, 2015 9:33:33 GMT -8
Obama is renaming Mt. McKinley, changing the name back to the original name of Denali.
Are you for or against this?
IMO, it has always been Denali and should always be called Denali.
(please do not turn this into a political thread)
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Post by hikerjer on Aug 31, 2015 9:41:55 GMT -8
(please do not turn this into a political thread) Nice try Woodsie, but the Ohio delegation already has. |
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Post by cweston on Aug 31, 2015 9:43:21 GMT -8
It's a no-brainier: of course it should be called Denali. (That's what most people were already calling it, right.)
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Woodsie
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Post by Woodsie on Aug 31, 2015 9:43:45 GMT -8
Yeah, I know they have, but we don't have to (on the Forums).
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johnnyray
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Post by johnnyray on Aug 31, 2015 10:01:27 GMT -8
Did not know it was not officially named Denali, it is in Alaska I think. No problem here.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 31, 2015 10:11:47 GMT -8
I can think of a few more mountains and peaks, and towns, that need renaming — like ones named after "Indian-Fighter" generals with a terrible record of cheating and killing innocent Natives. Or names like "Devil's Tower" that are practically a sacrilege to Native beliefs.
There are official naming-commissions that are currently studying the re-naming of several geologic formations in my area — "Devil's Tower" being merely one of them.
Yes to Denali.
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Post by amaruq on Aug 31, 2015 10:16:35 GMT -8
Revert to what it's been known as for hundreds of years? Or maintain its namesake after an Ohioan who's never set foot in Alaska?
herp derp
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Post by Lamebeaver on Aug 31, 2015 10:38:17 GMT -8
(please do not turn this into a political thread) It's somewhat Ironic that McKinley's assassination put Theodore Roosevelt in the white house, which benefited all of us. After he became President in 1901, Roosevelt used his authority to protect wildlife and public lands by creating the U.S. Forest Service and establishing 51 Federal Bird Reservations, 4 National Game Preserves, 150 National Forests, 5 National Parks, and enabling the 1906 American Antiquities Act which he used to proclaim 18 National Monuments. During his presidency,Theodore Roosevelt protected approximately 230,000,000 acres of public land.Source |
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Post by walkswithblackflies on Aug 31, 2015 10:47:30 GMT -8
It's somewhat Ironic that McKinley's assassination put Theodore Roosevelt in the white house, which benefited all of us. After he became President in 1901, Roosevelt used his authority to protect wildlife and public lands by creating the U.S. Forest Service and establishing 51 Federal Bird Reservations, 4 National Game Preserves, 150 National Forests, 5 National Parks, and enabling the 1906 American Antiquities Act which he used to proclaim 18 National Monuments. During his presidency,Theodore Roosevelt protected approximately 230,000,000 acres of public land.SourceRoosevelt was climbing Mt. Marcy (Adks) at the time of the assassination. Mt. Marcy's original name was Tahawus (meaning "cloud splitter"). |
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Post by toejam on Aug 31, 2015 11:07:53 GMT -8
Don't think Denali is the original name either (been a while since I read that book). But that name has a local origin and it's what climbers & locals have called it for a long time. Certainly more appropriate than McKinley.
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Post by Lamebeaver on Aug 31, 2015 11:17:29 GMT -8
To placate the Ohioans perhaps we could rename GMC's gas-guzzling soccer mom behemoth "The McKinley"
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Post by BlueBear on Aug 31, 2015 11:52:16 GMT -8
To placate the Ohioans perhaps we could rename GMC's gas-guzzling soccer mom behemoth "The McKinley"  That actually seems like the perfect compromise here. |
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Post by Westy on Aug 31, 2015 12:04:35 GMT -8
rename GMC's gas-guzzling soccer mom behemoth "The McKinley" You crack me up! My friend and I drove to Alaska to climb the peak in question. Typically you give your expedition a "trail name". Ours was "Driving Denali" How about Niagra Falls to McKinley Falls? He was shot and succumbed to his wounds literally stones throw away! That makes since to me. I hope the next executive signature is on the document proclaiming Bears Ears/Cedar Mesa National Monument and Greater Canyonlands National Monument. |
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Post by High Sierra Fan on Aug 31, 2015 14:05:47 GMT -8
I'm for the first recorded original: Tenada. Now maybe that means something rude in whatever language the locals were speaking that the Russian explorer asked (locals have a mean sense of humor to the tourists, it's a long tradition) but it also could just be legit: so maybe from the north it's "Denali" and from some other direction: "Tenada"? Even today there's twenty languages in Alaska so there's probably couple of labels for everything....
I say we ask the mountain.
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Post by High Sierra Fan on Aug 31, 2015 14:08:18 GMT -8
Don't think Denali is the original name either (been a while since I read that book). But that name has a local origin and it's what climbers & locals have called it for a long time. Certainly more appropriate than McKinley. I read the first record has the peak labeled Tenada when some Russian explorer asked around and that's what he put in his journal and what got put on Russian maps for quite a while. Probably different language local groups had a different name. Like I expect if you ask Hopi, Apache and Navajo the "name" of some location there'll be three different answers.... |
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