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Post by rwtb123 on Mar 16, 2017 7:29:22 GMT -8
The coffee isn't a substitute for food, it's a delivery system for the heavy whipping cream. I would agree with both statements here.I view coffee more as food(nutrition) than a substitute for food and like most foods(or nutritional beverages) works better in combination with other food groups.So I will include enough whole milk or cream until it turns just the right shade of creamy light brown then add various root powders.Or,I might add a shot to my protein shakes or to one of my anabolic snacks of whole cream with three raw pastured eggs and cinnamon powder. In this manner I can consume coffee all day long healthily as part of my diet whereas with my body type more than a single cup of straight black coffee without being part of a meal will be enough to start turning me jittery...
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Post by zeke on Mar 28, 2017 4:09:04 GMT -8
90 day average will have me dropping another whole point from my A1c, if I continue on this path.
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Post by zeke on Apr 26, 2017 15:24:40 GMT -8
linkDiabetic Denial. It is a real thing. 10% of the adult population has it, and the older we are the more likely we are to get it. Be sure to ask your Dr to test for your A1c. it is the best way to know.
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Post by bp2go on Apr 27, 2017 6:09:40 GMT -8
10% of the adult population To reinforce that bit of info, realize this: More than 29 million Americans have diabetes; 1 in 4 doesn’t know. Another 86 million adults – more than one in three U.S. adults – have prediabetes…- - - - - - One in three? There are 1800 people signed up for this forum now. Statistically, more than 600 people are probably already suffering some level of diabetes, and most are unaware! 100 regulars visit the forum in a 24-hr period, so maybe 10 diabetics reading the TR are blissyully unaware? Prediabetes generally has no signs or symptoms. Full diabetes is a sneaky disease with symptoms that are actually easy to ignore unless you are keenly aware of your body and how it works. There really is no snap test to find out if you are diabetic. You don’t feel sick. Nothing hurts, you think you’re fine … until you’re not! If you are normal. a fingerpoke and blood check over 125 would be a quick first look. An A1c requires a test that could be a little expensive ($75+) if insurance doesn't cover it. But you can buy a meter on Amazon for as little as $15 and do your own (close enough) test. To beat this into the ground, I'll add this: The excess glucose* in your body is silently damaging the capillaries that supply your eyes, your feet and hands, and your kidneys! These capillaries do not get fixed, and this happens without your knowing, until the damage creates the first real symptoms. IF you get check, you have plenty of time to keep from going well into the real deep trouble! Take it from the once-naive beepster. I wish I'd found out in time. I didn't. Now I no longer getting out to hike, have lost vision in one eye, and managed to have a toe amputated recently. And all this fun even though I now have my type 2 under control! So yes, I'm trying to help you avoid this crap. Get curious.
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Post by speacock on Apr 27, 2017 13:17:13 GMT -8
zeke: 90 day average will have me dropping another whole point from my A1c, if I continue on this path.
Congratulations!!!
I am a recovered (recovering) Type II - non medicated. Doc said to get off my butt, I had been disabled for about 8 months and had simply eaten everything in sight. No portion or carbohydrate controls. Being active had let me live a good life.
I lost 30 pounds and doc said to figure on living that way for the rest of my life. I was happy for that suggestion. I'd rather be active.
Went from A1C 7.3 to 5. something. She also said that, like an alcoholic, one never really is 'cured' from Type II one only copes well.
She said that exercise and planned diet to support the exercise resulting in weight loss almost entirely reduces the incidence of being 'in the range'. I had had no indications or ever thought that I was producing indications of being a diabetic. Thank goodness for once a decade physicals (and a pushy wife).
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Post by bp2go on Apr 28, 2017 9:40:16 GMT -8
had had no indications … of being a diabetic Exactly! And you are lucky to have had that physical to catch it at only 7.3, giving you the opportunity to "quickly" drop back into a safe range. This is exactly why everyone should get curious; this is sneaky stuff. Presumably you are now testing your glucose and managing to have a fasting number hovering around 100 to 120? And along with that daily check, are you now tracking your blood pressure? The sneaky part of prediabetes is that the high blood sugar will start to damage the capillaries that serve your eyes, your feet and hands, and your kidneys, and you probably won't know it until it's too late. This is why you really must have a dilated eye check (by an ophthalmologist rather than an optomotrist. And it's a good idea to start seeing a podiatrist to have your feet cared for on a schedule. You might sense numbness, then again, you might not...yet!. But you want to have a professional checking your feet. Probably this is all familiar advice, but it doesn't hurt to have it reinforced.
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Post by bp2go on Apr 29, 2017 12:38:15 GMT -8
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Post by speacock on May 2, 2017 11:46:36 GMT -8
Thanks bp2goAll indications seem 'normal' (bp, fasting is normal or tad below, I get a lot of eye checks - arrested glaucoma ). I'll check into feet, right after I get my lungs looked at. Dang! Getting old ain't for sissies. Good idea that.. Walgreens.
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Post by zeke on May 23, 2017 6:37:14 GMT -8
GP appointment today. Drew blood for my A1c test. Results in a few days. Dropped 5#s since Feb. Discussed other diabetes concerns. New Rx for more testing strips so I can test twice a day if I choose. I will be getting a Podiatrist to aid in keeping the diabetic damage at a minimum. Office testing showed I caught this before nerve damage occurred, but another Dr looking at my feet is a good thing.
Some of you know my tendency to be obsessive. I was warned not to get too concerned over glucose numbers that still fall within the desired range. Just because 115 is great, doesn't make 125 bad. 140 is still a decent fasting glucose number, even if I never like seeing it.
Counting carbs has done the work. I still enjoy a beer daily, and on rare occasion a slice of pie. By rare, I mean 1 slice per 90 days. Pizza is limited to 2 slices every 10-14 days. Difficult as that is on me, I am doing OK. I like eating crisp salads, so a caesar salad with or without grilled chicken is a fine meal.
My blood pressure has dropped also, down from the edges of normal (120/80), to 116/68. Still normal, but I now have some breathing room.
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Post by zeke on May 24, 2017 7:18:43 GMT -8
6.3 A1c. Lower than I expected, but i can continue this life path easy enough. I have to admit to back sliding a little on my diet, but evidently not as badly as I thought. Mid March to mid April was a bad time for me. Eating left over cookies and chocolate from a car camping trip with friends. We'll see where it is in late Sept.
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Post by BigLoad on May 24, 2017 17:44:55 GMT -8
Great, keep it going! Accepting some ups and downs in diet is better for long-term success than overly rigid adherence.
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Post by jazzmom on May 26, 2017 3:49:41 GMT -8
zeke, I don't think I knew about this thread but I've been following your FB posts, and I'm so impressed. I'm thinking that a little obsessive is working for you in this case. Anyway, kudos to you! The coffee isn't a substitute for food, it's a delivery system for the heavy whipping cream. If you haven't tried, I highly recommend it; Unless you are on a low fat, high sugar diet. Then don't. Wow, finally, someone who really gets me! lol I couldn't agree more.
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Post by zeke on May 26, 2017 7:12:14 GMT -8
jazzmom As you probably gleaned from the first page, bp2go had some words for me when he discovered my Dr had a poor approach. I decided to start this thread to help others who might also need more info than they were getting from their medical team. Thanks for checking in.
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Post by bp2go on May 26, 2017 8:28:38 GMT -8
my Dr had a poor approach An understatement! How could a doctor casually tell someone their A1c was 11.4, then send them home to "see how it goes" until the next test! Since my first test was 11.5,I had to step in. Once zeke got a meter (no thanks to his doctor) we started comparing numbers. A little food chat, some work on understanding how the carbs hit, and it was better to have a team effort to get zeke on the right track. The irony was that his second A1c was the same as my last test, and now his 6.3 has me hoping I am bringing mine down to match! I still have two more months to wait for the next test. The good news is that zeke should be spared some of the problems that could have developed had he waited as his doctor was suggesting. I personally wish there were more people seeing this thread, maybe thinking about asking a doctor to run a test? Pre diabetes is way too common and most don't even suspect it....until they find out it's already doing damage. And PRE diabetes is misleading. It IS diabetes. Trust me, you don't want to let this go, and you don't know you have it until you get tested.
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Post by zeke on Jul 13, 2017 12:49:38 GMT -8
bp2go bested my A1c number recently. Now the competitor in me is hoping I can beat his number at my Sept check up. My Dr moved me to 4 month checks because of my success in lowering my numbers with dietary changes, of which he had no influence on at all.
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