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Post by Deleted on Dec 16, 2016 9:43:04 GMT -8
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Post by markskor on Dec 16, 2016 15:30:41 GMT -8
For me, instead of seeing this, your gear, would rather see the next video - the building of the shelter - how? What did you have to cut down to build it - windbreak...How big a fire - structure/ location to reflect heat... staying warm, heated rocks? How much wood needed? Are you spreading out coals ala Jeremiah Johnson? What if it rains? Sounds like a great adventure regardless...kudos on you!
As for 11 pounds...looks like a safe enough kit. Subjectively, maybe a little heavy in some areas but... no mention of wardrobe...would take a down jacket, and an old waterproof shell for those conditions.
BTW, Didn't Muir go out with only a good knife, a wool coat, and a tin of biscuits? Nice, if you know what you're doing.
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Post by johntpenca on Dec 16, 2016 16:24:44 GMT -8
Looks like all new gear that has not been tried before. Are you in over your head? Not a fan of bushcraft as it is far from LNT.
Edit: knife and flashlight look way heavy and overkill. Check out backpackinglight.com
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Post by johntpenca on Dec 16, 2016 16:42:24 GMT -8
I want to approach this as a survival venture as much as possible -- so if that means I don't get a good nights sleep -- that's totally ok with me. Ever spent a night freezing your arse off? Not something you will want to repeat. Hope you enjoy your adventure. I once took a trip and purposely left my sleeping bag at home to see how it would go. No fun at all.
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Post by bluefish on Dec 16, 2016 17:02:05 GMT -8
A fire built in front of a E-blanket lean to , and your sleep gear could get you through the night pretty easily. If you're in an area where you can't, not so much fun. A big pile of leaves and/ or boughs for ground insulation. I'd bring a piece of plastic for a ground sheet, that liner will wet out quick. As I practice LNT, even where it wouldn't matter much in the dense forests of the Northeast, I just carry what I need to be comfortable and safe. I carry a kit a bit different than yours for winter day hikes.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 16, 2016 17:12:52 GMT -8
Hi folks,
Thanks a lot for the feedback. I did try out my 11lb pack on this trip shown below. Full disclosure though, my camping buddy wimped out and took a lot of gear. I tried not to benefit from his extra gear. But with that said, I will be going out again in the next few weeks (now that there is lots of snow where I live) and take that same pack out with me. I will be building a new shelter and rely totally on that shelter for survival. I won't bother with the Mylar blankets though.
I will make it a point to show the clothing that I wear as well of other small but very important details that I left out in the original video.
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Post by toejam on Dec 17, 2016 5:46:30 GMT -8
Of all the minimalist kits I see on the internet, it's the long distance through hikers who have the best. It's not o.k. if they don't get sleep or go hungry, yet some have 11# base weight packs, and they don't kill any vegetation.
Couple of thoughts - sleeping bag liners don't work, and if you are using a space blanket you had to have done something wrong.
Final thought - I love the enthusiasm. Keep going out testing gear and let us know how it goes.
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Post by jazzmom on Dec 17, 2016 6:23:39 GMT -8
So, does that 11 pounds include food, water, fuel? How about the clothes worn?
I can do 11lb pretty easily for an overnight if worn clothes aren't included, i.e. trailhead pack weight. Key items would be an UL shaped tarp shelter (silnylon Solomid-knockoff, 12.5 oz) and a high-end down sleeping bag (WM 20deg bag, 27oz). I wouldn't be in survival mode either, and would also have a closed-foam pad, water container, stove/pot/utensil, toiletries, one set of dry baselayers, food (full day), 1Qt water, even toilet paper. Misc/emergency kit with headlamp, knife, FAK, etc. Base gear weight would be 8lb.
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Post by tigger on Dec 17, 2016 7:21:35 GMT -8
I'll stick with winter weight (including food) being at 23lbs...and I've got beer packed good for a weekend down to 0.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 17, 2016 8:36:17 GMT -8
The medical kit is in a heavy outer bag and a heavy water proof bag, I put mine in a zip lock freezer bag.
I changed out my stuff sacks to Cuban Fiber.
My kit (not including food and water) from my last trip, including tent and, sleeping bag, weighed 10.7628 pounds. I spend time reading the journals of PCT through hikers and got a real good idea of what they use that worked, what failed, and what stupid weight means.
For winter weight, I know I'd go out with more gear.
Good luck with finding the gear that works for you.
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Post by markskor on Dec 17, 2016 8:43:48 GMT -8
Saw the video...interesting...might need/want to swap out /add some gear? BTW, how much of the 11 pounds did the ax weigh?
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Post by jazzmom on Dec 17, 2016 16:12:36 GMT -8
I'll stick with winter weight (including food) being at 23lbs...and I've got beer packed good for a weekend down to 0. Yes, but as you can see from his avatar, he's got beer but no clothes. Priorities, I guess.
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Post by JRinGeorgia on Dec 17, 2016 18:02:11 GMT -8
My kit (not including food and water) from my last trip, including tent and, sleeping bag, weighed 10.7628 pounds. What kind of scale are you using that measures down to the ten-thousandth of a pound? That's about 4 grains of rice.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 17, 2016 18:13:14 GMT -8
My kit (not including food and water) from my last trip, including tent and, sleeping bag, weighed 10.7628 pounds. What kind of scale are you using that measures down to the ten-thousandth of a pound? That's about 4 grains of rice. A digitsl scale we bought off Amazon, 6 years ago, to measure product.
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Post by dirthurts on Dec 17, 2016 18:51:09 GMT -8
In my opinion, if you need a fire or vegetation to stay warm, you're certainly doing it wrong. To each his own, but I would reconsider some of the heavier items and swap them for more reliable shelter and insulation.
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