crawford
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Post by crawford on Nov 8, 2016 18:02:36 GMT -8
Yes I can look on the interweb....Yes I can check out YouTube....
But in the larger interest of drawing our attention away from the election coverage a gear question for those more in the Know than I.
Is anyone familiar with the Lunar Solo by Six Moons Designs? I'm looking at getting the perfect pitch. While it sets fine I seem to generally get the side walls closer to the ground than I might like. Closing down the ventilation like that can lead to a bit of condensation inside. So for those who use this tent, or are familiar with it, do you have any tips/tricks for getting your perfect pitch? Do you use the side loops and draw them out? Do you set the stakes in a specific order?
Much appreciated.
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Post by reuben on Nov 8, 2016 18:30:38 GMT -8
I think jazzmom owns one, or a similar SMD. If so, and she doesn't reply here, send here a PM. ETA: wondering how jazzson is doing...
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Post by drilldaddyo on Nov 8, 2016 20:51:48 GMT -8
Hi there,
I would recommend giving the side loops a pull upward if possible. Perhaps using a tree branch that is near by. It will also give you a little more head room inside the tent. I carried a very thin cord with a safety pin attached to the end of it for this purpose. Keeping the vestibule open is what really helps with the ventilation of this tent. Hard to do when it's raining!
Re-adjusting the tension and sometimes moving the stakes after the tent has "stretched" a little following the initial set up helps get a more taught pitch.
Hope this helps.
Sincerely,
Randy
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Post by franco on Nov 9, 2016 13:21:45 GMT -8
Might be easier if you post photos of how you do it. ( I use Photobucket)
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crawford
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Post by crawford on Nov 9, 2016 16:01:16 GMT -8
I'll give that a shot when I get home this weekend. Thanks for the suggestion. I'm going to set up in the yard, snap a few pics and see if I can post them.
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Post by dayhiker on Nov 9, 2016 16:08:08 GMT -8
If the ground isn't level it can cause an imperfect pitch, but not sure if that is the problem here.
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Post by toejam on Nov 9, 2016 20:05:48 GMT -8
It's not precise science with the Lunar Solo. It's guesstimation based on experience. The angle depends a lot on how high you make the center pole - too high and you can't get the walls tight, too low and you get wet tent in your face. You get water inside when it rains of you leave too much gap above the ground, mostly from splashing.
The initial stake placement is always kind of a guess with the two front corner stakes. I usually SWAG those stakes and then the back middle, then put up the pole and the front cord, then the corners, then re-do a stake or two to get it right. It still takes me less time to put up this tent than most of my buddies spend with other tents.
The Lunar Solo ventilates way better other tents I've had, but some locations are just wet and everything gets soaked anyway. It will always stay dry on high ground with a breeze.
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crawford
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Post by crawford on Nov 10, 2016 5:03:45 GMT -8
If the ground isn't level it can cause an imperfect pitch, but not sure if that is the problem here. That is a good point, though not my issue. I'm starting to think that I'm intentionally trying to make the side walls too high. Perhaps they should be fairly low to stop the splashing. I appreciate the comments and experience being shared.
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Post by jazzmom on Nov 18, 2016 4:46:58 GMT -8
I think jazzmom owns one, or a similar SMD. If so, and she doesn't reply here, send here a PM. ETA: wondering how jazzson is doing... Just saw this. I have a DIY MLD Solomid knock-off. Similar half-pyramid design but the Solomid's really a tarp; no floor or bug protection. The one thing I personally don't like about the pyramids is the sloping side near my head, but I'm a minority here. I tend to prefer my old Contrail/Squall. I bought a poled tent last year (getting old and lazy...) and went with the BA Fly Creek for the same reason. Just a personal preference though. Oh, and Jazzson is attending Berklee School of Music in Boston, having the time of his life. Thanks for asking reuben.
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Post by reuben on Nov 18, 2016 6:10:55 GMT -8
Well, I guess I'm getting old and lazy, too, 'cuz I swore it was you that had some sort of tarp, not a Tarptent, but some other brand, that you really liked. I have an old Solomid. MLDs are modular, so you add floor/net as desired. It's kinda nice to take just the tarp and the floor when bugs aren't an problem. Yeah, headspace can be an issue, but I just pray that I don't get trapped in there for a few days in a row. I could get a semi-pyramid design that has more headroom (offset peak), but then it'd be bulkier and heavier. Besides, I still have my Double Rainbow. I have a friend near Boston - Holliston. He was/is a jazz fan.
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Post by Gungasden on Nov 18, 2016 19:27:20 GMT -8
The thing I found out with mine is to first make sure that your staff is at least 39 or 40 inches tall before you start. Then be sure that the stake loop are loosened. Stake the back two corners first then the rest. It seems to work better for me.
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Post by crawford on Nov 21, 2016 6:53:04 GMT -8
I promised pictures....but I'm a no good scoundrel, lying, cheating, etc, etc. That and my battery died on this weekend's trip so only one pic that isn't the best for anything.
All that said I learned a lot this weekend. Out in SE Pennsylvania we had some interesting weather. Friday night got down to about 39. Saturday, we started hiking with layers on but within an hour were pulling all of them off. It hit 68 and was sunny. Then the magic happened. Between 3:00pm and 4:30pm the temps dropped 25 degrees. Winds got hard, with steady 15-20 mph and gusts in the 30-50 mph range. Low hit 31 degrees and sleet and snow came in, just enough to stick to and weigh down the tent a bit and whiten up the ground. What a perfect weekend to test my gear.
I learned much. One, I was pushing my center pole up a bit high. I moved it down to about 42-43" which allowed me to pull the front guyline forward and create a great pitch. I learned that the slippery nylon on a tyvec ground cloth is a problem if there is the slightest of slopes. Must find a completely level area, there is NO ROOM to play with this. Also, setting the two front/side stakes then the center back, then the front, and lastly the rear/side stakes helped me to get a solid pitch.
Snow load was a slight issue, in the night I slid my feet left and the snow sliding down the tent drug the tent side into contact with the foot of my sleeping bag. While it dampened it, it was not wet through. Regardless this made my feet pretty cold by 4am. I had to make some adjustments.
I've pretty much only gone with hammocks for the last few years (with the exception of a few bivy hikes that were very short), so this was a great short outing that offered many of the weather events I could worry about in a short 36 hour period (high wind, snow, ice, low temps). Condensation was very manageable on night one, a little more on night two but was to be expected since the wall had a layer of ice on it. No puddling within the tent and all gear inside and in the vestibule stayed dry.
Think I really like this tent and am looking forward to tweeking my setup in the future.
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Post by reuben on Nov 21, 2016 7:07:40 GMT -8
I learned that the slippery nylon on a tyvec ground cloth is a problem if there is the slightest of slopes. Some of us use/paint extra seam seal to put "tracks" on the silnylon floor, which limits sliding of the pad/bag on top. This may also work on the bottom of the floor against the tyvek. You can make your own using GE silicone II caulk and mineral spirits, which is what I do.
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Post by texasbb on Nov 21, 2016 7:32:13 GMT -8
I learned that the slippery nylon on a tyvec ground cloth is a problem if there is the slightest of slopes. Some of us use extra seam seal to put "tracks" on the silnylon floor, which limits sliding of the pad/bad. This may also work on the bottom of the floor against the tyvek. You can make your own using GE silicone II caulk and mineral spirits, which is what I do. Some of us gave up ground cloths many years ago and wish we could have the years back from before we saw the light.
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Post by toejam on Nov 21, 2016 12:06:44 GMT -8
Some of us gave up ground cloths I don't use a ground cloth with my Lunar Solo and rarely camp on level places.
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