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Post by Deleted on Jul 28, 2015 16:22:41 GMT -8
Windows 10: Not for Me, Not YetI'm interested in other folks' reaction to Windows 10 free upgrade. Since my computer runs Windows 7, the Windows 10 app showed up in my taskbar when I ran windows update and installed KB3035583. Here are my reasons for not accepting the free Windows 10 upgrade: How about you? Planning on taking the "free upgrade"?
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Post by johnnyray on Jul 28, 2015 16:35:20 GMT -8
I run 7 also and like my set up. Glad to hear I'm not the only one to decline.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 28, 2015 16:37:12 GMT -8
That option hasn't been allowed on a connected WinPuter for 15 years. Started with Vista. The rest of your comments warm my Luddite heart. I was pissed when I couldn't play Zork anymore. I'm not sure what you mean. Windows 7 does in fact allow me to decline ANY windows update or to install it later when I'm ready. I generally install all "important" updates but decline some "optional" updates. But I'm glad you didn't call me a troglodyte for liking Windows 7 just fine. Oh Dear God. I agree with Travis. Wow, I think I felt the earth move.
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Post by johnnyray on Jul 28, 2015 16:38:32 GMT -8
Windows 7 does in fact allow me to decline ANY windows update or to install it later when I'm ready. I generally install all "important" updates but decline some "optional" updates. You adjust your settings to update automatically or be asked, I also just do the "important ones when I feel like it.
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Post by johnnyray on Jul 28, 2015 17:01:24 GMT -8
How does Win 10 work with chalk? On a sidewalk or a genuine old fashioned slate blackboard? Not that crappy paint they sell at the big box home centers either.
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Post by llamero on Jul 28, 2015 18:31:46 GMT -8
How does Win 10 work with chalk? On a tablet, I mean? Tablets are as old as Moses, wonder what OS he had?
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Post by swimswithtrout on Jul 28, 2015 20:10:04 GMT -8
I freaked about the time Vista came out. They can force feed updates. That's the standard now. Not true if your not newted !! I've always had the ability to either "automatically" download Win updates, or allow me to pick and choose what I want to download. I always pick and choose, and in the case of my laptop, that I don't use on the internet , but use as my primary control device for my telescope, I have ~ 500 updates that I decline everytime the window pops up.
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Post by tigger on Jul 28, 2015 23:13:35 GMT -8
I will be installing the update because I need to be comfortable with operating systems that my clients will be using. You will be able to burn a clean image of Windows 10. If you have a license for Windows 7 and know how to download images, you can always make your own to re-install later (assuming you don't have one). Windows 8 is more secure than Windows 7 and Windows 10 will theoretically be even more secure - That is a good thing. The core engine of Windows 10 is still Windows 7's, the only "major" difference being all drivers must be signed (like Windows 8) and that the required updates (mainly security patches) are not optional. Personally, I encourage people to download those anyway.
That said, I'm encouraging my clients to hold off for a month at least before installing. You don't have to install the Windows 10 upgrade but reserving a copy...why not? It's free.
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Post by Lamebeaver on Jul 29, 2015 13:10:57 GMT -8
I will not upgrade my PCs that are running Windows 7. I will upgrade the ones that are running 8.1. I don't think anything could suck worse than 8.1.
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Post by reuben on Jul 29, 2015 13:37:41 GMT -8
Oh Dear God. I agree with Travis. I quit my job and robbed a liquor store. The End Is Near. I now face east at all times, waiting for the Four Newts of the Apocalypse to ride over the horizon.
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Post by tigger on Jul 29, 2015 14:16:49 GMT -8
Windows 10 is now installed on my primary computer. It took about 3 hours and that is on a pretty darn powerful system (I7, SSD drive, 8GB RAM). The look isn't bad (more like Windows 7), but the control panel is all twisted. Haven't played with the new browser yet. I'll give more updates when I have some time to play with it.
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Post by gabby on Jul 30, 2015 22:00:34 GMT -8
Somebody who's more up on the tech issues tell me why this is so big a deal. I've been out of the "tech business" for a while, so, you tell me: what's wrong with the following assessment?
Decent internal hard drives for both desktops and laptops (in the 1TB/2TB size) are pretty cheap these days (under $100), so why not buy a drive, install Win7 on it from your old DVD media (if you can find it), or even copy your current drive to the new one (you need to back up your stuff before updating anyway!), then update to Win10?
I read that, once you're "registered" for Win10 from a Win7 system, you can even go download a copy onto a DVD (or, better still, a USB flash drive) and do a "clean install", though, if you're getting the "free update" and haven't actually bought a copy of Win10, you'll probably have to "upgrade" your old system first.
Easy peasy. Try it, and if you like it, keep it. If you don't, go back to your "old drive", which you never tampered with. Switching drives is pretty simple.
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Post by Lamebeaver on Jul 31, 2015 6:56:38 GMT -8
I got my mom (85) a Toshiba with Windows 7 a few years ago. When that one needs to be replaced, I'm seriously thinking of getting her a Chromebook.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 31, 2015 7:20:31 GMT -8
. . . what's wrong with the following assessment? . . . How do you, the user, control where all WIN 10 OS files are downloaded to previous to installation of the operating system? In 17 years of running machines with Windows operating systems, I have never been given control over the exact location to which Windows OS files are downloaded to. If, however, I initiate a download from my web browser of some other software, I can chose to download to any location on my hard-drive, or even to a flash drive. And before the download begins, that directory is created in plain view where I choose. Then after the download is complete, I can back up the software before installing it. However, Windows Update has never performed with such blatant clarity. Instead, Windows downloads update files to a location it chooses, gives me no control over that location, and does not reveal that location before or after installation of those files. I have never had the option of backing up a Windows update. In theory I like your idea, but I'm not inclined to attempt a time-consuming download of a massive 3 GB set of files — just hoping against all odds that I can locate the entire download and back it up before I install it. The Windows 10 information I have received from Microsoft is that all WIN 10 OS files will be downloaded to my computer first. And then I will be notified when ready to install. MS does not say that I can choose the location of download before it begins — say, to a flash-drive. And when I look up the FAQs on WIN 10, all I get is a lot of speculation but no clear answer from Microsoft on how to back up the new WIN 10 OS. I like Windows products just fine. WIN 7 has been the most stable OS I've ever had. The biggest reason I see for WIN 10 is to overcome the embarrassment of WIN 8. In fact, a lot of what I read says that WIN 10 is a return to WIN 7 — with a few other embellishments thrown in for multi-gadget lovers. When I'm ready to buy a new computer, I won't hesitate to buy a WIN 10 OS. But just because something is "new" and "free" is no selling point for my finely tuned WIN 7 machine. Give me WIN 10 neatly packed onto a flash-drive, and I'll take it. Otherwise, no reason to hurry.
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Post by gabby on Jul 31, 2015 13:35:02 GMT -8
Granted, I feel about the same as you. I'm not all that interested in Win10 for the sake of Win10. My current installations (3 computers) of Win7 are just fine. All I was saying is, if you were interested in Win10 - for the approx. $50 price of a 1TB hard drive ( www.amazon.com/Blue-Desktop-7200rpm-Internal-Drive/dp/B0088PUEPK/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1438377862&sr=8-1&keywords=1tb+internal+sata+hard+drive) - you could simply copy your current setup to a new drive, update to Win10 to get your free copy (Well, not counting the $50 cost of the hard drive!), then check it out. If it upgraded successfully and seemed stable enough and compatible enough with your existing setup, 'nuff said. Use it. If not, you could still revert to your original drive with Win7. Clearly, not all that simple, but not really all that complicated. If you wanted to create a "clean install" for later, simply follow the instructions here: Lifehacker: How to Do a Clean Install of Windows 10I'm not recommending this, simply saying you could, for a wee bit of trouble, have your cake and eat it too. I guess.
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