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Post by gabby on May 25, 2024 20:11:31 GMT -8
Walked into the garage tonight to retrieve something and heard the back of our Toyota buzzing. Looked it up and found that later model cars (Toyotas) perform emission tests (fuel evaporation) which are apparently "scheduled" for 5 hours after you park the car in the garage.
I'm appalled. Oh, for the days when you turned the engine off and the car just sat there until you returned.
I guess times are better now, but I'm really tired of my auto "welcoming me" whenever I open the door. Turns out, I don't really like "smart machines".
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Post by Sleeping Bag Man! on May 25, 2024 20:39:08 GMT -8
Your dealership service department just called.
That automated emissions equipment is broken & needs to be replaced. Repairing the feature you didn't know you had will cost $3,000.
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Post by Sleeping Bag Man! on May 25, 2024 20:43:42 GMT -8
PS: They already checked your bank account & know you can't pay, so they scheduled an appointment for you to donate one of your kidneys.
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Post by rebeccad on May 26, 2024 6:52:00 GMT -8
Thought it was only hybrids that did that. And almost any of the other features (like the car talking to you or suggesting you’re in need of a coffee break) can be turned off. New-fangled technology I love include blind spot warnings, backup cameras, and my lane departure (it may bug the hell out of me when I’m cutting corners on a winding road, but appreciate it when I’m distracted and it lets me know in no uncertain terms). Basically I love all the safety features and am merely amused by the rating it gives me after each drive on how good I was at conserving gas (“Back off on the accelerator”. Tough to do when driving up hill).
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Post by driftwoody on May 26, 2024 7:06:19 GMT -8
Many newer cars relegate many routine functions to a touch screen instead of physical knobs & buttons.
Seems to me navigating a screen can result in more distracted driving, and gloves (even with touchscreen sensitive fingertips) aren't always effective.
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Post by ErnieW on May 26, 2024 11:26:52 GMT -8
I have had my back up cam for over 10 years now. When I drive a car without I'm all nervous backing up.
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Post by driftwoody on May 26, 2024 14:15:17 GMT -8
I have had my back up cam for over 10 years now. When I drive a car without I'm all nervous backing up. I find the backup camera useful, partly because my head doesn't swivel around as well as it used to. |
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Post by zeke on May 26, 2024 15:59:49 GMT -8
But when the guy tried to sell me an extened warranty based on how much it cost to fix or replace some of the new tech, I balked. He told me it cost $3500 to fix the rear camera, and what would I do if someone damaged it in a parking lot wreck and didn't leave me a note? I told him I couild go back to backing up the way I had been for 50 years.
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Post by Sleeping Bag Man! on May 26, 2024 16:00:55 GMT -8
I have had my back up cam for over 10 years now. When I drive a car without I'm all nervous backing up. I find the backup camera useful, partly because my head doesn't swivel around as well as it used to. I recently began teaching my niece how to drive…she’s so short and tiny she can’t bend her neck around to see past the chair. I’m not quite sure how to handle it…is it OK to let her use the backup camera & mirrors exclusively? Or should I advocate some sort of booster for her seat? |
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Post by zeke on May 26, 2024 16:06:41 GMT -8
is it OK to let her use the backup camera & mirrors exclusively? If it was me, I would say it is more than OK to teach her to drive using the tech commonly available today. I might also advise her to either back into any parking space, or find one that allows her to pull through into the space in the next row. Backing out of a parking lot space is the most likely place to either hit another car, or a pedestrian. |
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Post by Sleeping Bag Man! on May 26, 2024 16:40:04 GMT -8
If it was me, I would say it is more than OK to teach her to drive using the tech commonly available today. I have a hard time trusting the depth perception on a backup camera...I check it first, for things like pedestrians and moving cars, but then turn my ahead around when I start moving. Is this one of those "it's safe if you always did it that way from the start, quit worrying about it like an old fart" things? I might also advise her to either back into any parking space, or find one that allows her to pull through into the space in the next row. Backing out of a parking lot space is the most likely place to either hit another car, or a pedestrian. I'm more nervous backing into a spot than out, if there are cars in the neighboring spots...doesn't take much of an error to scrape one. So I'll teach her to park out where there's no neighbors? This is my method, but mostly because I'm fat & I need the extra steps.  My niece is most definitely not fat. |
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Post by zeke on May 26, 2024 16:43:09 GMT -8
Side mirrors can be electrically tilted more down so one can see the white stripes.
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Post by sarbar on May 26, 2024 17:12:45 GMT -8
’m not quite sure how to handle it…is it OK to let her use the backup camera & mirrors exclusively? Or should I advocate some sort of booster for her seat? She needs to drive a vehicle with seats that go up and down. That's how I drive Kirk's 350. The seat is jacked up to the top height, so I can see over the dash. Kirk drives it at the lowest point. He's a foot taller than me, and has a very long torso. |
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Post by sarbar on May 26, 2024 17:19:08 GMT -8
Older cars don't also have to be parked outside, far from buildings, because the manufacturer says the batteries might spontaneously catch on fire. Ford Motor Company bought back my 2019 EV on Friday for full price due to that "flaw." I truly miss old-school cars these days. I won't miss how the car would brake for me, when it thought it knew better.
Now, don't get me wrong, I love backup cameras. But thankfully I can still swivel my neck or always park in pull thru spots only.
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Post by BigLoad on May 26, 2024 18:35:56 GMT -8
Walked into the garage tonight to retrieve something and heard the back of our Toyota buzzing. Looked it up and found that later model cars (Toyotas) perform emission tests (fuel evaporation) which are apparently "scheduled" for 5 hours after you park the car in the garage. Toyotas have been doing that for quite a while. The 4Runner has had that since at least 2010 (5th gen) and maybe 2003 (4th gen).
I think it's triggered by something more than just a post shutdown timer, like a temperature sensor. I've heard it anywhere in the range of 3-7 hours.
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My niece is most definitely not fat. 
