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Post by hikerjer on Jun 5, 2021 14:17:13 GMT -8
This is a followup on a related queston. I still need to secure a bicycle outside during the day - no other alternative - in a not too particularly high theft area but, of course, the risk always is always there. Which would be more secure - a substantial cable or a very strong chain. I know that angle grinders and such can cut through just about anything but I still need to secure my my bike outside for a period of time to some degree. I've gone to various industrial businesses and bike shops and got contradictory answers. Some swear by chains, others say a strong cabel is much harder to cut. Any insights?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 5, 2021 15:12:07 GMT -8
I used to use a cable. You can also remove the seat and or the front wheel. Kinda hard to ride that way.
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Post by hikerjer on Jun 5, 2021 15:39:07 GMT -8
Kinda hard to ride that way. True, but unfortuntely, not hard ot thorw in the back of a pickup truvk.
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Post by zeke on Jun 5, 2021 16:30:15 GMT -8
Let's face it. The locks we use for the bikes are only to deter a crime of opportunity. If they really want the bike, no lock will prevent theft completely. Angle grinders or bolt cutters will get through plenty of anti theft precautions. You're just trying to not tempt the kid walking home from school. I use a strong cable, about 3/8 in diameter and coated. It's about 7 feet long and made by Kryptonite. That is long enough to wrap through the main components and the frame. If it gets cut, that would make it easy to defeat. I see Master sells something very similar.
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Post by balzaccom on Jun 5, 2021 16:38:57 GMT -8
I agree about the cable, and about the "crime of opportunity." If someone REALLY wants to steal your bike, they will show up with a grinder and cable cutters, and be gone in less than two minutes. The lock is just to prevent idiots from thinking they can just ride off in it, or toss it in a truck and drive away.
I'm also a believer in leaving the bike in a high-traffic area, rather than trying to hide it somewhere. if it's hidden, so are the potential thieves. If it's right out where any number of people can see it, the thief never knows which one of those people is watching, or is the owner.
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Post by nickhowes on Jun 6, 2021 2:43:29 GMT -8
As noted, any bike lock is a good deterrent but will not stop determined thieves. If the bike is really special, maybe add a hidden GPS tracker?
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Post by ErnieW on Jun 8, 2021 15:18:18 GMT -8
In Manhattan I notice a lot of bikes have both chains (sometimes very heavy) and cables. Many people the the NYC area have beater bikes to risk get stolen. The racks at the Metro NYC train stations are full of them.
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Post by desert dweller on Jun 8, 2021 19:50:49 GMT -8
Bicycle thievery, like most thievery, is all about opportunity. Thieves do not want to spend a lot of time doing their craft. Here are some ideas. Lock up in a place that has foot traffic. Remove the quick release on the front tire and make the thief use a tool. (Which takes time.) I use a set of cuff locks from Master LockHaving two barrel locks appears imitating to a thief and he'll think twice. You may want to remove your seat post and seat and don't leave any lights mounted either.
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Post by bluefish on Jun 9, 2021 3:32:29 GMT -8
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Post by reuben on Jun 9, 2021 3:34:46 GMT -8
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Post by walkswithblackflies on Jun 9, 2021 7:16:01 GMT -8
Park next to an unchained bike.
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Post by backpackal on Jun 9, 2021 8:39:15 GMT -8
Anecdotally, my buddy stopped by this weekend with his utility trailer. He had locked the spare tire to the trailer with a bike cable and a hardened master lock, but had lost the key. My normal sized bolt cutters would not touch the hardened steel lock, but the cable cut like butter
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Post by tomas on Jun 9, 2021 10:00:24 GMT -8
I assume smearing a toxic bioagent to the handles would be unacceptable?
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Post by desert dweller on Jun 9, 2021 10:12:40 GMT -8
I assume smearing a toxic bioagent to the handles would be unacceptable? It would be illegal.
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Post by High Sierra Fan on Jun 9, 2021 16:25:25 GMT -8
If you’re that much at risk for the price of the hardware you can get a beater bike: add a few amenities to make it tolerable but not stand out and go from there with whatever nice lock you’ve got. I do like the Kryptonite u-locks.
Spray painted flat black is an additional nice touch.
Thing being: for nice components they’ll cut through the frame not the lock. 😊😊😊
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