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Post by franco on May 26, 2021 1:26:24 GMT -8
When I was living in London I always watched the The Old Grey Whistle Test, the rock/prog version of Pop Of The Tops. Genesis was and still is my favourite band. These are the best 40 minutes of prog rock ever played ( well, maybe)
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Post by zeke on May 26, 2021 2:43:30 GMT -8
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Post by franco on May 26, 2021 14:18:30 GMT -8
Many Genesis fans don't like the I can't dance either. Comparing those two clips should explain why.
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Post by Deleted on May 26, 2021 17:57:02 GMT -8
Franco thanks for posting this!! I was, and still am a big prog rock fan. My very first concert was Emerson Lake and Palmer on their first tour in the US. Played in a roller rink in Alexandria VA, I can't even remember the date, but I do remember Keith Emerson throwing daggers in the keyboard of his hammond organ and improvising around the chords they created. Never saw Genesis in concert, but did see ELP three times, YES twice.
I was the first kid in high school to bring YES albums to class. Most of them were like 'what the heck?" but by the end of the year, they were all listening to this stuff. Many of these musicians are still producing music, and a lot of those old albums are being remastered and re-released. Artist-Shop.com is a great source.
Here's a video for you. Maybe you've seen it. ELP at Olympic Stadium 1977, and this was a sound check!
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Post by franco on May 26, 2021 19:06:39 GMT -8
Welcome back my friends to the show that never ends... I had that album on a double cassette. Bought second hand in Soho as most of my tapes and albums were. I used to listen a lot to Pictures at an Exibition. I knew the original Mussorgsky's music so I took to it pretty fast. I did not see ELP live but Capital Radio in London used to play them very often. Give Camel's Snow Goose a go ...
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Post by ErnieW on May 26, 2021 19:19:48 GMT -8
The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway is a masterpiece and I still regularly listen to it. Sorry to say I am an old Genesis snob. They weren't the same without Peter Gabriel.
I graduated high school in 1978. I am guessing that anyone who says they are a old Genesis fan was from about that time.
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Post by Deleted on May 27, 2021 5:20:47 GMT -8
Franco - Pictures at an Exhibition - that's what they were playing while Keith was stabbing his keyboard.
And I have the entire camel collection. for those who have not heard of them. find MoonMadness and Mirage. Probably two of their best lp's
Funny story about that first ELP concert here - This was the very early 70's. One of the local radio stations booked ELP for this concert, WPGC I think. They had a really obnoxious DJ that came out on stage to introduce the band, as he was finishing up, people in the audience started throwing stuff at him and yelling 'MEATBALL" for whatever reason, and ran him offstage. You could see the band laughing. On a later ELP release, there's a short fun rocker called 'Are you Ready Eddy". At the very end, you hear a chorus of "MEATBALL" and a lot of laughter in the background. I've always wondered if that came from that concert in Alexandria.
I remember during that time period, the popular movement for prog bands in Europe was to do rocked-up versions of classic music. I'm trying to remember a German band that was really popular for a brief time. The introduction of the Moog Synthesizer really changed things. Didn't last long though.too bad, it was getting really interesting for a while.
ErnieW - I gotcha beat by 6 years. and I agree about Peter Gabriel, but he wrote some really strange stuff stuff sometimes.
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Post by ErnieW on May 27, 2021 6:49:16 GMT -8
ErnieW - I gotcha beat by 6 years. and I agree about Peter Gabriel, but he wrote some really strange stuff stuff sometimes. Strange was good back then. Coming out of the conformity of the 50's and early 60's it was ground breaking. The drugs that were pretty popular back then helped too.
I went to a pretty progressive public school system. I remember listening to this in independent music class a bit:
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Post by swmtnbackpacker on May 27, 2021 6:59:08 GMT -8
The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway is a masterpiece and I still regularly listen to it. Sorry to say I am an old Genesis snob. They weren't the same without Peter Gabriel. The Lamb lies Down on Broadway is my favorite Genesis song and the one usually played decades later on classic rock stations. They are all still friends and have lately done combined interviews (Peter, Phil, etc..). When Phil Collins had to take over lead vocals, they brought in a former “Earth, Wind, and Fire” drummer which further changed their sound. ‘80s Genesis went into the pop realm but they did some protest type songs/videos in that decade too (like the video with Thatcher and Reagan puppets). Remember their songs were always on ‘80s radio. Iirc, Phil Collins said he would be good with just drumming for a reunited Genesis tour with Peter Gabriel on lead vocals singing whatever - old Genesis, later ‘80s Genesis, Gabriel single hits, etc.., .. but (again iirc) they all agreed they may be too old to reform the band.
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Post by cweston on May 27, 2021 9:05:55 GMT -8
Oddly, I really like most historical prog rock and synth rock. I also like contemporary prog rock like Thank You Scientist.
But I never connected with Genesis at all. Not the older prog rock stuff, even less with the later pop style, and even less than that with solo Phil Collins (which I would rank as among the dregs of successful pop music).
HYOH, of course.
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Post by swmtnbackpacker on May 27, 2021 11:14:21 GMT -8
..But I never connected with Genesis at all. Not the older prog stuff, even less with the later pop style, and even less than that with solo Phil Collins Hard to argue with record sales, but Phil Collins-led Genesis hits are now pretty much “mall Muzak” nowadays… background enough for those shopping for Mom jeans, shoes, etc..; think most people on earth hear the opening of an ‘80s Genesis song and they tune out. Meanwhile their first songs are known as “not all that accessible” even by music critics. Being a fan of rock, remember thinking as a teen that “…Lamb on Broadway” was their zenith shooting them to stadium rock when Peter Gabriel quit and went solo. I’m a much bigger fan of Peter Gabriel’s solo hits and wonder if Genesis would have been more rock oriented in the ‘80s had he stayed? Guess we’ll never know…
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Post by franco on May 27, 2021 15:07:31 GMT -8
I'm trying to remember a German band that was really popular for a brief time.it means nothing to me. Vienna. This was the original Minimoog they used If you still can't remember the name, I'll tell you.
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Post by reuben on May 27, 2021 15:19:14 GMT -8
I'm trying to remember a German band that was really popular for a brief time. Maybe Kraftwerk.
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Post by franco on May 27, 2021 15:33:41 GMT -8
BTW, Steve Hackett, the 1971 to 1977 Genesis lead guitarist, is till playng songs from Nursery Crime, Foxtrot, Selling England by the Pound , The Lamb and Seconds out pretty much the way they were performed when they came out.
Steve was born a day before Peter Gabriel.
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Post by franco on May 28, 2021 14:36:45 GMT -8
About Peter Gabriel I was in Italy when this edition of the Melody Maker came out : my future wife was sending me the mags. From that I learned that Frank Sinatra was coming to London , so I asked her to buy a couple of tickets . She did and we went to see the Sinatra concert. (!)
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