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Post by tigger on Jan 18, 2016 18:15:05 GMT -8
So all Kickstarter campaigns posted by the seller/maker are "fair ball"? I think Steve already explained why he left it. "He isn't "selling" exactly, he's getting opinions."
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Post by llamero on Jan 18, 2016 19:39:22 GMT -8
In my opinion, it doesn't really do any cinching, it's a variation on the "frog" used to carry a flashlight or hammer. If it were twice the size it would be useful for my stretching exercises. I think you should get back to the drawing board, dude, or you might do better selling your services making videos.
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Post by rebeccad on Jan 18, 2016 20:12:09 GMT -8
I'm with the rest of the responders: I don't strap stuff on the outside of my pack. On the rare occasions when I have to, I use the straps that are already attached to the pack. There was a time when I might have thought those were handy for things to strap to the top of my pack. Not sure, since I didn't watch the video
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Post by JRinGeorgia on Jan 18, 2016 20:28:56 GMT -8
I think Steve already explained why he left it. "He isn't "selling" exactly, he's getting opinions." I saw that. The OP links to his Kickstarter campaign, where the product is selling, so I'm wondering if that means that all Kickstarter promotions are the same -- not selling but just asking for opinions with links to the sales site. It seems either they're all acceptable or all are not.
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Post by tigger on Jan 18, 2016 21:29:05 GMT -8
It depends on how it's presented. He's not directing us to buy it. He's asking if this is the kind of thing we'd use. Hence, my first reply regarding the ease in which it is that we can tie knots and most backpackers having a slew of knots in their mental inventory (not speaking for all backpackers of course). It's not the type of thing I would typically use - From a weight standpoint alone. I'm trying to bring less gear (safely)...Not more. I would LOVE to get opinions from backpackers on whether this is the type of thing you'd consider using to secure your gear! I didn't feel like I was being getting a sales pitch. You may have felt different. I usually call them out on it if that is what I sense.
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Post by dayhiker on Jan 18, 2016 22:44:59 GMT -8
This is sort of like: www.rei.com/product/898177/nite-ize-24-clippable-twist-tieswhich so far I have resisted buying, they look bukly and heavy. I noticed your video uses two things I already do. I make a loop out cord, then putting it thru loop, say of a water bottle, I then put it thru itself and pull snug. Works the same as straps for cameras. The other end can be attached to a mini-carabiner as you do in your video, or just run pack strap thru it before clipping the top of pack shut. I have also put the loop thru a cord lock, which would allow you to attach like a camera strap, and then tighten , so it could not unravel. I think with that one could also fasten it to a water bottle that does not have a loop, just a slightly larger cap above, but it has been awhile since I done this I do attach things to my pack, but mainly as back up , for instance water bottles in pockets, that they might come out etc. Things don't swing, but I have also put snow shoes, close cell pads skis etc. ===== I did feel like it was a bit like a sale pitch, if it was just for opinions he probably would have come here long before doing a kickstarter. But I suppose it could help know if this might be something to market to backpacking stores, REI etc. Or maybe to modify it somehow.
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Post by toejam on Jan 19, 2016 2:09:30 GMT -8
I liked the looks of it. I could use a couple.
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Post by Admin on Jan 19, 2016 6:52:29 GMT -8
Okay, I'm only slightly more informed. I looked once more at the Kickstarter link and yes, pledges do generate a sale IF the project goes to fruition! Since there are all sorts of these straps displayed, looks to me that they are in production, so I am now convinced that Kickstarter posts will get removed as sales pitches.
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Post by Westy on Jan 19, 2016 8:55:20 GMT -8
Just linked in to Kickstarter.
My anti-virus software didn't trust it!
On reassessment this hunter is definitely poaching.
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Post by JRinGeorgia on Jan 19, 2016 17:17:05 GMT -8
I am now convinced that Kickstarter posts will get removed as sales pitches. Makes sense. I understand the original view that the guy asked for opinions, but he asked for opinions on something he's selling, and he directed us to the website where it's for sale in order to even see what he's talking about. The fact that he didn't come right out and ask for sales is splitting hairs under the circumstances IMO.
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Post by reuben on Jan 19, 2016 17:22:12 GMT -8
If When I'm elected president I'll start a kickstarter campaign to keep out illegal kickstarter campaigns and make kickstarter pay for it.
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Post by Coolkat on Jan 20, 2016 8:23:06 GMT -8
I like the idea simply because it's unique and looks useful. However, even after watching how strong it is in the video. I'm not sure I'd trust this to keep important gear attached. It appears to me that everything is good so long as gravity is helping out. What if you lay your pack down and the dangling piece of gear is no longer dangling but setting on the ground? Looks like an opportunity for things to loosen up and potentially fall out.
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Post by gabby on Jan 20, 2016 14:17:06 GMT -8
100,000,000 years ago, I found something online for making "drying clips" out of 1/8-1/16 shockcord (the stuff that is used inside poles, anyway - I seem to have some lying around most times - back in the day, I played with pole configurations on a regular basis and was kinda on a "first name basis" with the guys at Quest) and small or medium alligator clips or whipped loops for S-biners (NiteIze). I tried it, but found what most others have already said: it's extra stuff (to carry and to lose), I tended to use the available tie-downs/cinch straps already on the pack (they're already there doing something else - "dual use"), and - most importantly - stuff left outside the pack tends to fall off or get pulled off.
We all go through this stuff. For someone who never throws out anything, it gets to be a burden, however. :^)
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Post by zeke on Jan 20, 2016 14:18:58 GMT -8
Dual use for your roach clips?small or medium alligator clips
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Post by gabby on Jan 20, 2016 14:46:34 GMT -8
Dual use for your roach clips? Man, I walked right into that one... But no, the thought never entered my mind. Though I still have a beer with the occasional steak or a wee bit o' grape juice (white or red) with a meal, I mostly prefer the real deal to all that other stuff, or at least to the extent that I can overcome those difficulties of perception inherent to myself or, perhaps, innate to mankind. I think it was sometime in the late 70s that I was "cured" of "the weed" for good. I received a giftee joint from a "friend" that was laced with something very, very serious (PCP?). I was alone (wife out of town), and something wasn't right. A peek in the mirror in the bath revealed my own head with, not hair, but actual, real blood vessels coming out of my scalp and face, which pulsed and throbbed like a human heart. That was the end of that. I still have a pretty accurate nose for that smoke (there are places in the neighborhood when I'm out walking), even though a little patchouli could throw me off back when...
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