jazzmom
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Post by jazzmom on Apr 11, 2020 3:12:26 GMT -8
And in the meantime, Covid only has a mortality rate of 1-2%......The entire Planet has been shut down for nothing Have you considered what it might have been, or how many actual people that "2%" might have represented, had the planet *not* been shut down?
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Post by zeke on Apr 11, 2020 3:58:34 GMT -8
It was foretold that if the self isolation worked, the doubters would say this pandemic was no big deal. Any approach that lessens the severity by large numbers is fine by me.
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Post by cweston on Apr 11, 2020 4:11:13 GMT -8
It was foretold that if the self isolation worked, the doubters would say this pandemic was no big deal. Any approach that lessens the severity by large numbers is fine by me. Right...it is the lot of all successful prevention campaigns, that some people will always claim that they were over-reactions. And maybe they were, who can really know? (Because we can never really know how things would have turned out differently if, say, we had chosen a different career, a different spouse, a different hiking destination, etc.) There's a certain segment of US society that seems to be constantly exaggerating the threat of foreign terrorism, in my opinion. But it's possible (not likely, but possible) that they are correct and we're just doing such a good job combating and preventing it (in secret) that their fears *appear* over-blown.
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Post by swmtnbackpacker on Apr 11, 2020 5:21:50 GMT -8
You can travel whenever you want...Hike off trail by yourself !! And in the meantime, Covid only has a mortality rate of 1-2%......The entire Planet has been shut down for nothing 2% of the US would’ve been 6 million. As it is we’re barely containing it from overwhelming the medical system thus far, and the higher number would have overwhelmed morticians as well. The ventilator patients can be on those for a far longer time than other patients too. The idea was not to overload the hospital emergency/ICU systems, even though other doctors/nurses pitched in during this first curve and now making sure it doesn’t become a double curve with a slight indentation. There is some light as those medical resources will continue to build.. Some European countries are reopening giving us a clue on how this will go ... www.cnn.com/2020/04/11/health/european-countries-reopening-coronavirus-intl/index.html...and I even heard the Los Angeles mayor is looking at mid-May (gateway for many to do at least part of the PCT if they start permitting again).
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Post by swmtnbackpacker on Apr 11, 2020 6:30:20 GMT -8
so the only real options are finding a reliable theraputic or starting to let this thing spread to healthy folks while we isolate/protect the high-risk folks. That could happen, but plenty of young, healthy folks are going pay the ultimate price. The mystery of why the coronavirus kills some young peopleOne thing I’ve noticed (more anecdotal) is every interview with (or about) a young healthy man hospitalized with CV is a tendency towards bigger body sizes (though it’s not 100%). Everything from bodybuilder types to couch potatoes. Wish we could get more numbers type info on BMI (body mass index but measures muscle along with fat) vs hospitalization rate, etc.. I posted some links on similar threads that showed being obese adds more risk but think there needs to be more info released IMHO. Heck I’d say mandate taking long distance backpacks or bike touring if possible (with appropriate PPE like masks/gloves, distancing, etc..)
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Post by BigLoad on Apr 11, 2020 6:38:44 GMT -8
The ventilator patients can be on those for a far longer time than other patients too. Another issue that isn't getting much coverage yet are the long-term impacts on recovered ventilator patients. Some develop cognitive impairments, changes in emotional regulation, and there have been reports of cardiomyopathy. That could indicate considerable need for ongoing treatment. Back on topic, now that state and county parks are closed, the AT is the only hikeable area in a great distance that remains available. There's a catch, though: parking is now banned at all the access points. Fortunately I have the neighborhood with plenty of hills, and when I stick to the steepest hills, I meet the fewest people.
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Post by swmtnbackpacker on Apr 11, 2020 7:32:36 GMT -8
If there’s no hiking, I’ll be biking. Hopefully more municipalities use this temporary lull in auto traffic to block off streets for pedestrian walking or recreational bike riding. Oakland just closed off 74 streets to allow more exercise by their public. www.sfchronicle.com/hdn/hrlm/p/callback.html
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Post by ErnieW on Apr 23, 2020 5:39:54 GMT -8
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Post by no_granola on Apr 23, 2020 6:09:50 GMT -8
For my part, I've just been hiking/walking in my neighborhood. It's good exercise, plenty of cardio, and a beautiful area. I'm fortunate to live in a rural location that is close to a lake and features rolling hills in a valley between two ridges.
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Post by kayman on May 9, 2020 5:13:57 GMT -8
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Post by driftwoody on May 10, 2020 3:57:41 GMT -8
I was planning to drive 5 hours to Shawnee National Forest for an overnight hike in a remote area this weekend, but I just couldn't pull the trigger.
The chances of catching or spreading the virus were less than going to the grocery store, but we are supposed to avoid "unnecessary travel." Of course, there's also the remote possibility my fairly new car or old body would break down somehow, requiring the services of other people.
On the plus side I've been enjoying some good dayhikes in the forest preserves just 20 minutes away. Yesterday I brought my leather gloves and pruning saw and worked for hours clearing blowdown and thorn weeds from an old side trail.
I enjoy getting off the beaten path and away from the wide thoroughfare trails which have attracted more people as the month of May has brought some very nice weather and spring wildflowers to the area.
My personal window is closing for my favorite hiking destinations south and southeast of Chicagoland, as I'm really not fond of heat and bugs. Summer months have always been for softball. The first tournament for my senior team is early June, but that's still not 100% certain.
Bottom line, giving up our normal recreational pursuits for one season is a small sacrifice in the wider context of how so many others are being impacted by this pandemic. We have alternative ways to stay fit, and even Chicagoland has some nice outdoor areas to enjoy.
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Post by tomas on May 10, 2020 10:40:41 GMT -8
It was foretold that if the self isolation worked, the doubters would say this pandemic was no big deal. It really is a sad fact.
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