rebeccad
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Post by rebeccad on Oct 11, 2020 2:58:48 GMT -8
National numbers are climbing again. I’m trying to parse why, and suppose it is in part due to reopening schools, combined with fall weather moving people indoors? That seems too soon since most places aren’t that chilly yet. Maybe just that general sense of “open up” that has more people going places, going out, and doing indoor things. I will continue to stay out of most places, but you have to buy groceries.
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Post by BigLoad on Oct 11, 2020 9:09:02 GMT -8
I had a backpacking-related COVID dream last night.
I was on a solo trip in a remote area and hadn't seen anyone for a couple days. My tent was set up, but I was cowboy camping a few feet away, sprawled out on my pad, breathing deeply through an open mouth. When I flopped over, my hand felt another person. I opened my eyes and saw 50 people all packed together around me, nobody wearing masks.
One person was talking and everyone else huddled together silently. I asked what was happening, and they said it was a funeral. The deceased had long ago picked this spot to be buried, and they had to move my tent to do it. I said it was rude to move in on me like that while I was sleeping. They gave me about three dollars in nickels and dimes and told me to buy myself a cup of coffee. They didn't hand them to me, I had to pick them off the ground one by one. They had set up a refreshment tent nearby, and I waited half an hour in line to get it the coffee. There wasn't any left when I got to the checkout, but there were some leaves of lettuce.
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Post by swmtnbackpacker on Oct 11, 2020 10:11:12 GMT -8
Australian scientists found COVID can linger for up to 28 days on cash, smartphones, etc..., though that may differ from the spreadability www.bbc.com/news/health-54500673Still, feel free to mail me any of that dirty money for disposal. Just me looking out for your health...
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Post by davesenesac on Oct 11, 2020 17:09:56 GMT -8
Have a Vail Resorts Epic Tahoe Local Pass again this coming 2020/21 ski season. They've already posted upcoming policies at resorts and how they will be changing for virus safety. Masks will be required in all infrastructure areas including ski lift mazes and while riding lifts while not being required while skiing down on slopes if maintaining adequate distance. They are recommending people wear masks while skiing though such is optional. There are gray areas like while skiing past others closer than 6 feet I expect will be handled with common sense. I won't be skiing with my mask up as that would result in goggle fogging and more importantly impact breathing. Same residence riders will be able to load any lifts as a group. On quad chairs will allow singles at each end of chairs and on 6-pack chairs as much as same residence doubles on the outsides. The chair I use most at Heavenly, Little Dipper, is a 4 seat quad chair, that I usually load as a single. The resort noted there will still be singles lines.
All Vail Resorts are now on a reservation system the info for which reads as rather straightforward and flexible with quotas. As a retired senior that skis mid weeks, that ought not be an issue except possibly on fresh powder days.
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Post by mk on Oct 11, 2020 17:56:53 GMT -8
There wasn't any left when I got to the checkout I was going to comment that your dream sounded more like a nightmare, but this line has definitely elevated it to that level. No coffee? Horrors!
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Post by swmtnbackpacker on Oct 17, 2020 12:13:49 GMT -8
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Post by swmtnbackpacker on Oct 26, 2020 5:55:07 GMT -8
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Post by sarbar on Oct 26, 2020 8:36:06 GMT -8
the flamboyant displays of Trump So....they shouldn't support their president? Ok....it doesn't work that way. You are acting as if Trump flags should be illegal so you don't have to see them? That is face palming. You are the one giving them free rent in your mind.....
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Post by autumnmist on Oct 26, 2020 9:48:58 GMT -8
sarbar, I've read and reread jazzmom's post and didn't see it that way. As a family we as children spent time climbing up and down the Dunes when we visited relatives on that side of Michigan, and I remember them as pure, very pure, clean, and unfettered and not clogged with human intervention. Other than directional signs, I can't imagine political signs in such a pure environment. And I don't think that the Dunes are a place for people to show support for a politician. In addition, I don't know if jazzmom saw these on Dunes property, where they had no legitimate right to be, or on private property. She also didn't address or infer a legal issue; I had the impression it was more of a quality and scenic than political issue. I've seen plenty of lovely yards hosting up to 2 dozen signs, and it looks like a cluttered junk yard sale. The beauty of the yard is obscured by the signs.
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Post by jazzmom on Oct 26, 2020 11:04:01 GMT -8
the flamboyant displays of Trump So....they shouldn't support their president? Ok....it doesn't work that way. You are acting as if Trump flags should be illegal so you don't have to see them? That is face palming. You are the one giving them free rent in your mind..... Excuse me? How in the world am I "acting as if Trump flags should be illegal"? I don't even know what "You are the one giving them free rent in your mind" means... free rent for what?? This is the statement from which you picked off the five words you quoted. It was from my "observations" (exact word) about the two recent trips I took: First, I was *really* dismayed by the flamboyant displays of Trump and Confederate flags in the rural areas around Sleeping Bear Dunes. This is one of my favorite places in the world, where I've been seriously considering buying retirement property. I guess I shouldn't be surprised but I confess I'm more than a little heartbroken. Notice I said *nothing* about what other people should or shouldn't do. This was strictly about *me* being heartbroken that there were so many *flamboyant* Trump flags together with Confederate flags in the part of Michigan that I've loved for a long time. And, yes, "flamboyant", as in "(of a person or their behavior) tending to attract attention because of their exuberance, confidence, and stylishness."Yeah, I get pretty testy if you quote me out of context *and* put words in my mouth.
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Post by swmtnbackpacker on Oct 27, 2020 6:58:46 GMT -8
A new UK study shows antibodies drop fairly quickly amongst those who’ve had COVID, but it also depends on age. 18-24 year olds keep their antibodies longer while those over 65 but especially 75 have theirs drop really quickly. (the latter in the second, then first link respectively): www.dw.com/en/uk-study-shows-drop-in-covid-19-antibody-response/a-55410054A little more .. www.bbc.com/news/health-54696873Another is showing health workers have consistent levels of antibodies since presumably they are always exposed (assuming they recover obviously) ..
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Post by cweston on Oct 27, 2020 8:26:58 GMT -8
Covid changed my life last week--my son had a fairly significant exposure. We locked ourselves down for a week. He waited three days to get tested (which greatly reduces the risk of a false negative), and then it was three more days waiting on his result, which was negative, thank goodness.
But we are very fortunate in that both he and I (my wife was out of town visiting her mother--good timing) had the ability to do so. He works in a retail job, but was able to miss his shifts without being fired. He is a college student, and his classes are all online right now. I am currently doing my job from home. We have neighbors who helped out with picking some things up for us. (We live in the sticks, about a half hour from "town.")
Also, my son was able to get tested while asymptomatic at the campus health center, which most people in Kansas are not able to do these days, because of the way the state's health infrastructure is being slammed by the pandemic.
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Post by sarbar on Oct 27, 2020 8:39:38 GMT -8
How in the world am I "acting as if Trump flags should be illegal"? Well...you were the one upset over seeing the displays, but nice recover there. Lol.
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Post by davesenesac on Oct 27, 2020 9:57:28 GMT -8
Since April I've suspected the reason for the significant variation in severity of COVID cases has been due to partial immunity from past orthocoronavirinae family head cold infections. News has slowly been dribbling out from research and here is the latest summary.
Although it is not mentioned in the article, the obvious thought I've had for months is that instead of waiting for a vaccine, a strategy for older people of unknown risk that fear possibly catching a severe case might be to intentionally infect themselves with one of the other orthocoronavirinae family of viruses so that if they do catch SARS-COVID-19, it is more likely to be a mild case. Personally as a septuagenarian, it is something I could entertain for the sake of not spending the remaining years of my life so isolated.
www.news-medical.net/news/20201015/Previous-infections-with-seasonal-coronaviruses-might-protect-against-SARS-CoV-2.aspx
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Post by autumnmist on Oct 27, 2020 10:16:48 GMT -8
davesenesac , As a senior in her 70's, I would heartily disagree with the concept of "intentional infection". While I understand the rationale, it's a suggestion that people of my age and older intentionally put our own lives at risk, in a current environment with inadequate capability to treat the burgeoning level of infections. Even infection within the CV family could pose high risks. You're still strong enough to live an active life; many seniors are not. Do you have any idea how many are battling multiple diseases, unable to live at home any longer, and reliant on expensive professional care? Do you really understand how vulnerable many seniors are? They're in much worse conditions that you are, or could anticipate. If we did volunteer for infection, given current and potential future triage priorities, we could be put at a lower level of treatment and attention. What would that accomplish except possibly eliminating competition for others who are infected, while raising the likelihood that some of us won't even last to develop immunities? I think if anyone should consider voluntary infection, it's the people who refuse to conform and adhere to repeatedly stated guidelines, those people who flaunt the guidelines with refusal to mask and participate unmasked in indoor and outdoor gatherings. I'm not able to see how spending the remaining years of your life isolated is a threat significant enough to justify self infection. I suspect you're not familiar with a lot of the steps taken to address senior isolation. Have you ever been with groups of seniors over long periods of time? Not all, but some learn coping methods. Isolation isn't automatic. Just as with the activities in which you engage, one needs to address changes and how to implement them, hopefully with family and community support. I won't deny that there are many who are lonely, isolated, and suffering. That's not unique to age though; others with compromising and terminal illnesses often face a similar challenge. Why do you think organizations like Gilda's Club have developed? People seek out others for comfort and solace, and that can apply to any age. Instead of contemplating deliberate infection, I would plan the next ten years of my life to include working with other seniors, or doing something gratifying such as volunteer work. Hospices accept volunteers to meet and engage in communication with seniors. Rehabs, AL and IL have activity sessions. Charities need volunteers; you could spend your time helping others, creating gratifying experiences that mitigate against feeling isolated, so that you segue into older age with a camaraderie of acquaintances, friends, and a purposeful goal of reaching out to others. It's emotionally challenging, but friends I know who've done this feel rewarded, although they do need higher levels of down time because of the emotional challenges. Give it some thought. You don't have to be isolated; take action now to ensure that you're not, but not through volunteering for infection.
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