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Post by oldbill on Jul 26, 2020 8:45:31 GMT -8
I've contacted a few Chamber of Commerce sites. They let me know they were concerned about the rise and effect on tourism. Part was trying to get the balance between tourist dollars and public safety correct. Many people won't come if they don't feel safe. That leaves those that don't care or feel less safe at home. Then there's the political side, which unfortunate as it is, is real, as they stated. Sent messages to governor too, though that's likely to go into the trash.
Can't see a shutdown, but think they should consider reinstituting the quarantine for certain highly infected states. Probably too late, sadly. Then there's all the challenges of enforcement. We had security guards here in CT at major chain stores to enforce mask rules. WY can't use troopers to stop every vehicle with out of state plates like RI did to NY early on. Still, a quarantine order could help IMO, even if it slows a fraction of folks coming in by air or checking into a motel.
Just my 2 cents, coming from a low infection state, trying to bring a paltry $50K of business to WY.
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Post by walkswithblackflies on Jul 27, 2020 7:41:34 GMT -8
I have a feeling we're going to see a massive surge locally soon after college students arrive (compounded with elementary/high schools reopening). This thought process is common among the age group: “I’m more scared of getting it at home, where I could give it to my family,” said junior Kayla Torrence-Johnson. “We all know that once we get back to campus there’s no real legal way for them to force people to social distance on the weekend and to not have a social life. Upperclassmen have their own places to live. You can’t tell people how many people they can have in their own home.”www.syracuse.com/syracuse-university/2020/07/syracuse-university-reopening-what-happens-when-the-countrys-no-1-party-school-reopens-in-a-pandemic.htmlSo it's OK to infect other people's families... just not your own. Awesome attitude Kayla.
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Post by autumnmist on Jul 27, 2020 8:03:04 GMT -8
“We all know that once we get back to campus there’s no real legal way for them to force people to social distance on the weekend and to not have a social life. She obviously has a different view of patriotism, viral control, and "real legal" ways. I wonder what's more important: studying for a potential career or spending weekends socializing. This attitude is one reason I'm glad I was primarily an evening student; I avoided many of the people there b/c they had no real plans. I even met one person who said after finishing a Masters degree that he would go on to get a Doctorate, the reason being that he didn't have any other plans or know what he wanted to do with his life.
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Post by BigLoad on Jul 30, 2020 21:27:16 GMT -8
I noted earlier that most young adults in our neighborhood interact more or less constantly without distancing (as do most of the children). Today the chickens came home to roost. Six teens from the neighborhood who attended a graduation party have tested positive, along with one from a neighboring town. Another 20 visitors from farther away are also reported positive. Consequently, over 6% of all the new cases reported today in NJ came from within a mile of my house. I hope this makes families take it more seriously.
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Post by BigLoad on Aug 5, 2020 20:50:16 GMT -8
I went to a small engine repair and business today to get my lawnmower fixed. None of the three people working at the counters wore masks. Only one of the other three customers was masked. It was very disappointing.
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Post by fifeplayer on Aug 6, 2020 8:57:43 GMT -8
So far? It has sucked.
My semi-hermit goat-ranching home life hasn’t changed, except that some of the surrounding states have made their public lands accessible to residents only, limiting some hiking opportunities, but that’s ok. Feed and grocery store trips have been consolidated.
Working in the medical field means work life has radically changed, from 40% income reduction early in pandemic due to volumes being down, now only 20% reduction while we strain the seams of our hospital capacity (because why would we go back to normal when we can do it for less...). Lots of phone conversations with families desperate for info on their loved ones. Don’t care about the politics...this is 10x worse than a bad flu season. Check on your healthcare friends. We are not ok.
Caught Covid-19 (probably from work) last month, and despite being relatively young and otherwise healthy, it knocked me for a loop for almost 2 weeks, including 5 days of low O2 sats and dyspnea with hospitalization considered. (Pro tip! Proning works!) Almost back to normal and now have caught mono! *cue British accent* I’m not dead yet!
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Post by BigLoad on Aug 6, 2020 9:00:36 GMT -8
fifeplayer That's terrible. I'm glad it's not any worse, but it's certainly more than bad enough.
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Post by autumnmist on Aug 6, 2020 9:02:31 GMT -8
I just do not understand why businesses, especially small ones with different or limited revenue streams (like small engine repair), do not take masking seriously. If owners or employees get sick, it's not as if there are lines of people qualified in these areas to substitute while someone's on medical leave. And they typically work much closer physically than larger stores which can mandate social distancing.
With this kind of noncompliance, the pandemic could easily continue to infect others for months longer than would otherwise happen if people complied.
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Post by autumnmist on Aug 6, 2020 9:12:35 GMT -8
fifeplayer, I'm sorry to learn that you contracted the virus, but glad that you've recovered, and I hope life stays that way for you. I've heard from my still working medical friends that they're not being treated well financially by their hospital employers, being furloughed, required to now pay their own health insurance, and constrained in taking even temporary jobs. I wonder if, or how, this will affect medical students other than doctors, as well as longevity and loyalty once the furloughed workers are back on full shifts.
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Post by walkswithblackflies on Aug 7, 2020 5:24:18 GMT -8
We've certainly turned a corner in Upstate NY. Hopefully the influx of college kids and reopening of schools won't ruin it. Syracuse, NY -- In a week in which Onondaga County recorded its lowest coronavirus infections since March, County Executive Ryan McMahon used one word Thursday to describe the progress:
“Remarkable,” McMahon said at least a half-dozen times during his 3 p.m. pandemic briefing.
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- Onondaga County alone is testing three times more people -- 2,227 on Thursday -- as needed for the entire five-county region (a state requirement of 775 tests a day across Central New York).
- New infections are as low as they’ve been in over four months. There were 11 new cases found overnight from among those 2,227 test results -- or a 0.49% infection rate, McMahon said. Of those, five were attributed to unknown community spread. One is still being investigated. The rest were among families with known infections, travel (Nevada) or senior living.
- Hospitalization numbers are as low this week as they’ve been since the early days of the pandemic in mid-March. As of Thursday, there were 14 hospitalized (nine for treatment, five for state-mandated quarantine before release) and three in critical care, McMahon said. - The numbers continue going down despite the phased reopening of the economy, McMahon noted. There have been hiccups, but nothing that’s derailed the fight for more than a few days, he added. The seven-day positive rate is 0.8%, far below the 5% that is considered cause for alarm. (A few months ago, the county was averaging an 8% to 9% infection rate.)www.syracuse.com/coronavirus/2020/08/mcmahon-has-one-word-to-describe-onondaga-cos-fight-with-coronavirus.html
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Post by Deborah on Aug 7, 2020 9:56:56 GMT -8
Caught Covid-19 (probably from work) last month, and despite being relatively young and otherwise healthy, it knocked me for a loop for almost 2 weeks, including 5 days of low O2 sats and dyspnea with hospitalization considered. (Pro tip! Proning works!) Almost back to normal and now have caught mono! *cue British accent* I’m not dead yet! Sorry to hear you caught it as you were caring for others. Glad to hear you are much better.
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Post by msdoolittle on Aug 7, 2020 11:12:48 GMT -8
So far? It has sucked. My semi-hermit goat-ranching home life hasn’t changed, except that some of the surrounding states have made their public lands accessible to residents only, limiting some hiking opportunities, but that’s ok. Feed and grocery store trips have been consolidated. Working in the medical field means work life has radically changed, from 40% income reduction early in pandemic due to volumes being down, now only 20% reduction while we strain the seams of our hospital capacity (because why would we go back to normal when we can do it for less...). Lots of phone conversations with families desperate for info on their loved ones. Don’t care about the politics...this is 10x worse than a bad flu season. Check on your healthcare friends. We are not ok. Caught Covid-19 (probably from work) last month, and despite being relatively young and otherwise healthy, it knocked me for a loop for almost 2 weeks, including 5 days of low O2 sats and dyspnea with hospitalization considered. (Pro tip! Proning works!) Almost back to normal and now have caught mono! *cue British accent* I’m not dead yet! Your goats need you! Keep being not dead. Sorry to hear you went through it, and sorry to hear you are now fighting mono. Ugh. But, the goats don't care. They need you. I have a lot of friends in healthcare. This has been terrible on them. Hang in there and thank you for all you are doing and all you have done.
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Post by gabby on Aug 7, 2020 11:48:40 GMT -8
So far? It has sucked. My semi-hermit goat-ranching home life hasn’t changed, except that some of the surrounding states have made their public lands accessible to residents only, limiting some hiking opportunities, but that’s ok. Feed and grocery store trips have been consolidated. Working in the medical field means work life has radically changed, from 40% income reduction early in pandemic due to volumes being down, now only 20% reduction while we strain the seams of our hospital capacity (because why would we go back to normal when we can do it for less...). Lots of phone conversations with families desperate for info on their loved ones. Don’t care about the politics...this is 10x worse than a bad flu season. Check on your healthcare friends. We are not ok. Caught Covid-19 (probably from work) last month, and despite being relatively young and otherwise healthy, it knocked me for a loop for almost 2 weeks, including 5 days of low O2 sats and dyspnea with hospitalization considered. (Pro tip! Proning works!) Almost back to normal and now have caught mono! *cue British accent* I’m not dead yet! I wonder all the time why there isn't some "direct from the workers to the public" communication - it's not reassuring all that much to see the dire situation through which you and your fellow workers are suffering, but it's a lot more illuminating than the tripe we get from the politicians and news media most of the time. Of course, given that a 15-year-old was suspended for posting a single picture of the halls at her school between classes, I suppose there are limits to what you're allowed to say. I hope you recover and are well again soon. I'm not interested all that much in the politics of this particular problem either, but I think constantly about the impact of losing so many lives and so much time and wonder how it would have been if we'd had better management with real adults in charge. But this sort of thinking only gives me bad dreams anymore.
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Post by gabby on Aug 7, 2020 12:39:05 GMT -8
A note: My life has continued pretty much as usual throughout this pandemic. Yes, I have to wear a mask and social distance and limit my exposure by not going to the grocery every day of the week, and going to a park to do anything is nearly impossible. I can't even go for a drive without worrying about what I'll do if I get sick, run out of food, run out of fuel or inadvertently drive into or through a place that's currently "surging". (The county to the northwest of mine, Burnet, is currently a "hot spot" - or so I read. I drove about 70 miles in that area a few days ago, charging the battery on one of my neighbors' cars as a favor because she's using it so little lately and doesn't really want to "get out of the house". I tried not to stop. The good part was that it was raining, so not hot. The country around the lake is gorgeous, esp. in the rain.) I also still feed the neighborhood cats and birds and squirrels daily, and I make 'add-on' trips for the neighbors I know who don't want to get out themselves to get extra stuff when I make a trip to the hardware store or grocery. But the most impact I've seen, because I basically have a boring life as a retired person anyway and I've been very lucky to be where I'm at at this particular time with no real money worries or dependent relatives I have to worry about, is food things I haven't been able to get because of various production or delivery problems "out there in the big world". For instance, for years I drank the worst instant coffee you can imagine - International House "coffee": It's really so loaded with sugar and other stuff it's not really coffee, but it's what I'm used to after spending so much time building alky stoves and deciding I just had to do something with all that hot water other than just throw it out. But it's been touch and go with getting it in sufficient quantity and so on for my "daily hit", that I've had to start alternating it with Starbucks Via, which I can get on a subscription basis from godawful Amazon (every time I think about them now, I see that Costco in Idiocracy): Amazon will send you a 30 day supply on subscription every 30 days, so that problem is solved - but the name on that building in "Idiocracy" will have to change from "Costco" to "Amazon". It's one of the few things they got wrong. Someone commented on one of the Youtube videos I watched that this was the only movie ever created as exaggerated, ridiculous fiction that turned out to be a documentary. And there's no kidding about that, bub. But I'm lucky as hell, and the comparison of my petty problems to fifeplayer's experience is only effective in illustrating exactly how lucky I am.
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Post by hikerchick395 on Aug 7, 2020 16:27:40 GMT -8
I didn't go to see my mom on her 90th birthday due to Covid. She went into a hospital two months later. Still didn't travel due to Covid. She went into a skilled nursing home and I was definately not allowed to go there. But she is being moved to a hospice bed next week and, by God, I am going to be there. Should at least be able to see her during the move.
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