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Post by xiaolichen1988 on Nov 28, 2015 16:07:33 GMT -8
Hello everyone, I am thinking about design my own tent, I had a one person tent, and i happy about it actually.it works great. but i think it is fun that i can have my own design. but I only have a few times backpacking,so my experience in the wilderness is really limit. so i would happy about everyone's opinions. the reason I am thinking about design a wearable tent,because in the tent it is a limit space,and i think it is so much easy to just wear it when i ready to lie down. And most important that i can watch the sky.i think it should have rain cover to the head after i decide i want to sleep.
welcome any kind of opinions. thank you
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Post by swmtnbackpacker on Nov 28, 2015 17:12:58 GMT -8
It's been done if you are looking for ideas. Mountain Laurel and Six Moon Designs have poncho-tarps, the later ("Gatewood Cape" - the front zips I believe) is more protective with an optional net tent that clips into the outer poncho tarp. Think the SMD one is more tarp-tent like too but I haven't heard much about the MLD poncho tarp performance. S2S also makes poncho tarps including 2 person versions, but not much protection. Add that I do not think the panels can be equal (one goes over the pack in the case of the Gatewood).
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Post by tigger on Nov 28, 2015 17:17:07 GMT -8
A bivy isn't quite that but close enough.
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Post by JRinGeorgia on Nov 29, 2015 6:05:59 GMT -8
Poncho tarps aren't what she's asking about, she wants to lie down and go to sleep while wearing the "tent". I use a Gatewood, and while it's a great weight-saving dual-use piece of gear I wouldn't consider wearing it to sleep in. A bivy isn't quite that but close enough. ^This, with maybe a small tarp. A "wearable" tent would be very confining, probably wouldn't cover your gear well or comfortably, and would be a challenge to ventilate properly. I'm also trying to understand how it would work with your sleeping bag/quilt and pad -- you have to be in your bag/quilt so you can't be wearing your rain protection at the same time. That brings you back to a bivy, which is rain or bug protection that your sleep system "wears" but not you directly. If you want to sleep under the stars then do just that -- when the weather is nice don't sleep in your shelter, just out in the open and then carry a small tent or tarp for when you need weather or bug protection.
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Post by Lamebeaver on Nov 29, 2015 17:49:33 GMT -8
A bivy isn't quite that but close enough. My thought as well. I've set my backpack up against a tree and covered it with a garbage bag, but I much prefer a tent. You can get a small 2 person tent that weights about 3.5 lbs. That gives you enough room for your pack. If you want to look at the stars, unzip and slide part of your sleeping bag outside. One of my early experiments with ultra-light backpacking involved wrapping my sleeping bag in visqueen (thin plastic sheet). It was very light, but with no air space, condensation was a real problem. If I did use a bivy, I'd also carry a tarp, which weighs very little and gives you a lot more flexibility. I wouldn't want to attempt to get dressed in a bivy in the pouring rain.
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Post by tigger on Nov 29, 2015 19:22:43 GMT -8
I've used the OR Advanced Bivy pictured above in pouring rain and even on a few snow trips on the flanks of Mt. Hood in mid-winter. As mentioned, it's not the easiest to change clothes in but it does work with a bit off shuffling around. There's just enough room to read a book with it closed up (always ventilate at least 4-6 inches). In summer, my gear gets tucked in on both sides and my pack becomes the padding under my legs...so yes, all my gear goes inside (even my boots get stored at the head of my bivy).
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Post by xiaolichen1988 on Nov 29, 2015 23:29:05 GMT -8
It's been done if you are looking for ideas Thank you for the information
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Post by xiaolichen1988 on Nov 29, 2015 23:33:12 GMT -8
I wouldn't want to attempt to get dressed in a bivy in the pouring rain right,that is one thing i should think about.
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Post by xiaolichen1988 on Nov 29, 2015 23:37:25 GMT -8
I'm also trying to understand how it would work with your sleeping bag/quilt and pad -- you have to be in your bag/quilt so you can't be wearing your rain protection at the same time. yep, so i am thinking wearable sleeping bag ,then it can work with tent together.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 30, 2015 2:06:09 GMT -8
so i am thinking wearable sleeping bag You could try a Selk Bag, I suppose. That's not a recommendation. I'm just trying to think out of the box here — in keeping with the nature of the thread.
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Post by amaruq on Nov 30, 2015 6:57:14 GMT -8
That looks just right for my astronaut costume. Too bad they don't offer it in white.
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Post by swmtnbackpacker on Nov 30, 2015 7:07:22 GMT -8
so i am thinking wearable sleeping bag You could try a Selk Bag, I suppose. That's not a recommendation. I'm just trying to think.... A little less daunting would be something like a Jacks R'Us sleeping quilt with a sealable zip hole for ones head, allowing it to be used as an insulated "serape". If doing your own start with easier to work with synthetic insulation before trying down (heard if one sneezes, there's a poof of feathers all over the place). A synthetic one would have the advantage of being useful as hiking insulation in an emergency vs down ... though down is far more efficient. The way quilts work is the bottom insulation is crushed anyways, so why not just rid of it and save weight? As a quilt user, I just oversize them (what's a oz?) and get the strap package to seal it to a sleeping pad. Past 15F, I start looking for a sleeping bag though since drafts cannot be entirely eliminated.
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Post by markskor on Nov 30, 2015 7:58:27 GMT -8
All well and good - until it rains. How are you going to incorporate a bathtub floor? What happens when water starts flowing around/into your concoction?
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Post by rebeccad on Nov 30, 2015 8:01:54 GMT -8
Where's SleepingBagMan and his avatar? He's wearing his bag :D I know that many UL hikers use their bags as extra insulation (around camp, at least), but I am always a bit paranoid about getting it wet, spilling my dinner on it, whatever. I do use my bag when things get cold, even before bedtime, but inside the tent where it's clean(er) and dry. Sleeping out under the stars can be nice, but it's also a lot colder. Many here do it a lot, but I find that a) I can't keep warm enough because of drafts, and b) I wake up a LOT worrying that it's starting to rain
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Post by High Sierra Fan on Nov 30, 2015 10:11:46 GMT -8
Tents have to be totally waterproof: sounds like a walking sauna.
With lightweight shelters all over the place and equally lightweight parkas keeping the two very separate functions as separate items doesn't strike me as all that burdensome.
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