zeke
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Nov 20, 2018 18:11:53 GMT -8
Post by zeke on Nov 20, 2018 18:11:53 GMT -8
I've been using WBBBs with OES tarps for a decade or so. UGQ quilts. I had Kat at Mt Goat make my snake skins, but I can't find her online anymore. She knitted hats, and made great skins for the hammock and tarp.
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Nov 20, 2018 18:31:38 GMT -8
Post by trinity on Nov 20, 2018 18:31:38 GMT -8
I had Kat at Mt Goat make my snake skins, but I can't find her online anymore. I have a set of her snake skins as well. That would be a shame if she's no longer in business.
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Nov 20, 2018 18:39:42 GMT -8
Post by greymouse on Nov 20, 2018 18:39:42 GMT -8
I respectfully disagree tipiwalter. I used a sleeping bag as a quilt when I first started and an insulated pad under me in a double hung hammock. As a sleeping bag it got miserable real quick if there was an insufficient pad under me (R3.4) due to the compression of the material. I often awoke to me shivering and it didn't stop. My old bones hate the cold lol.
With a quilt I don't compress the insulation under me. I am also not squeezed by the mummy bag due to my wide shoulders. Since I have size 14EEE feet I can move them if needed in my non-tapered quilt where-as in a mummy bag I feel like I have a constrictor on my feet and calves. A quilt can be used at any temp above it's rating just like a sleeping bag can be by simply hanging the under quilt loose for ventilation and venting the top quilt as needed.
As with any cold weather equipment you should choose a minimum of ten degrees for a safety buffer zone. I do agree with you on the fact that mother nature doesn't always give us what the weatherman promised us lol. A 20F quilt can be used at a lower temp by altering your sleep wear, adding a secondary quilt/blanket, and many other ways depending on how the situation dictates itself. The top quilt and bottom quilt will generally have more down insulation than a single mummy sleeping bag will. Technically the UQ insulates above your chest (sides of quilt) and the TQ insulates down to your back (again the sides of the quilt) so you actually have double the effective insulation on the sides than a traditional sleeping bag would have.
My zero degree set is actually for me to use for when it's 30F outside. If my normal everyday expected temps were to be around zero degrees then I would simply use a -30F set of quilts from LL. Here how it works for me:
Expected temps at ground level:30F Actual Wind Temp:-10F (10-15mph example) Elevation Change:-10F Moisture Level In Air At Waterfalls/Rivers/Rain:-10F 30F-10F-10F-10F= 0F quilts
Lastly, if your pad is in the double pouch area of the hammock it will not help you if you sleep on the diagonal or asymetrically as it will stay in line with the hammock and not provide coverage. Take it out to lay directly on and you'll be playing slip and slide all night with that pad under your bag in a slick fabric hammock. Ask me how I know lol. I'm not against sleeping bags by any means as they are great for tents
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Nov 20, 2018 19:00:10 GMT -8
Post by tipiwalter on Nov 20, 2018 19:00:10 GMT -8
I was assuming the conversation was about using a tent with a sleeping pad and sleeping bag vs quilt--- as Johntp made no mention of hammocks.
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Nov 20, 2018 19:07:18 GMT -8
Post by greymouse on Nov 20, 2018 19:07:18 GMT -8
Ahh and I may have mistaken the inflection of the question and took it to mean in a hammock since it was concerning quilts. Now insofar as a bag in a tent I would agree with you on many of your points.
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Nov 20, 2018 19:12:33 GMT -8
Post by tipiwalter on Nov 20, 2018 19:12:33 GMT -8
That's cool. I always come up with answers based on limited perceptions.
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Nov 21, 2018 19:59:25 GMT -8
Post by gabby on Nov 21, 2018 19:59:25 GMT -8
That's cool. I always come up with answers based on limited perceptions. Me too. Sometimes I don't even read all that well, and then simply blurt out something entirely irrelevant. What all this reminds me of is those sessions my various groups of programmers and designers sat through with customers, trying to build software systems. First item of business was always an hours-long documentation of "when you say this, you mean this?" sort of thing. A lot of ferocious debates and arguments would be quietly resolved if we all knew what the context was, and how we were using words and phrases.
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