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Post by dayhiker on Oct 21, 2015 7:40:43 GMT -8
Black Diamond did not respond, so I am asking here is there a way to patch a tear in their Epic fabric? I would also need to buy another pole. The tent flattened, and the pole broke when I tried to remove it, and then tore thru the tent. Not sure it is worth it , since this tent does not seem that reliable , though I liked the color and being able to look out its door.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 21, 2015 9:23:04 GMT -8
SilFix Repair kit, though it is listed as out of stock. Some Cuban fiber repair tape could be an option (waterproof). Good luck.
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Post by High Sierra Fan on Oct 21, 2015 9:55:12 GMT -8
Rainy Pass might be of assistance and Tent Pole Technologies which they link to could assist with the pole replacement. rainypass.com/tents/Otoh I've used Tenacious tape on things so if it's a moderate tear you could try that route, matching the fabrics breathability is irrelevant for the couple is square inches of a patch. Maybe not as elegant as a sewn patch but anyway. Trim off excess threads and double tape having rounded the corners of both patches, apply one tape patch to the outside while the fabric is smoothly laid over a book or something. No wrinkles allowed! When that has set, say overnight reverse the fabric and apply a twin patch on that side. I had that sort of patch on a Goretex parka sleeve that lasted about a decade and a half of hard use www.rei.com/product/783045/gear-aid-tenacious-tape-repair-tape
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Post by franco on Oct 21, 2015 14:53:00 GMT -8
McNett used to have a kit called Sil Fix for Epic and silnylon but Tenacious tape should work. Make sure you clean the area first with isopropyl or mineral spirit.
You are not the first to put a BD pole through the fabric. The trick is to hold the pole tip with your hand and hold on tight as you insert it into the socket or move it out through the door. Much easier to do if the corners are staked out. (so the tent floor does not move as you put poles in and out of place) Your tent will perform a lot better if you use guylines. (I own a Lighthouse...)
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Post by dayhiker on Oct 21, 2015 22:33:46 GMT -8
Thanks everyone. I did stake out the corners too windy not too, it was a steady wind, I tried for the first time to guy out the windy side, but did not bring my usually cord, and did not was to cut my poly cord so the knots I tied slipped some. I wasn't sure if I should guy out out the top where the cross pole goes? I had a very hard time to hook the velcro had to get at least two in place or the wind would pull it out, before I moved to the other end to fasten those pieces. Still it did not seem that windy but it was fairly steady. It WASN'T the tip that went thru, but the broken ends, right after they broke. I should have found a better way to remove the pole, but it did not seem like I was putting any more stress on it than normal and then it broke all at once, but it was flatten so it was hard to tell, I could not lift it up, or pull it up by the guylines. I was actually moving the tent to a quieter place so everything was out of it, after watching the super moon. I also so had it below the ridge, but the wind built up there after I put it up. EDIT: It does look like Sil Fix is no longer made. It worked on "For silicone impregnated nylon (e.g., EPIC, "SilNylon," etc.) fabric tents, tarps, backpacks, outerwear, and more." www.backpackinglight.com/cgi-bin/backpackinglight/mcnett_silfix_field_repair_kit.html#.VikcT6L71RgThe tape/ and or (Sil) seam sealer and patches?
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Post by gabby on Oct 22, 2015 9:44:03 GMT -8
How to PROPERLY pitch the BD Lighthouse - The Inimitable FrancoI couldn't tell from your description exactly what you were doing - pitching or decamping. As I understand it, the fabric itself is stabilizing when the Lighthouse is pitched correctly. Last end of the pole is necessarily near the door. Velcro tabs are merely there to position the poles - the pressure of the pole against the fabric is sufficient to keep the pole from bending "incorrectly" when the floor is staked out. But then, I've never had "high wind" when pitching my Lighthouse, though I had VERY BAD conditions (winds in excess of 30 mph) once or twice while pitching my OneShot (smaller, but same pole setup - BTW, I love this tent!) on a very cold, blustery February night around midnight. So windy I rigged a poncho over the door to "streamline" the profile, which I had set ACROSS the wind direction - practice I thought at the time was contrary to the reasonable, but dictated by the available terrain. Question: carbon or aluminum poles? I assume they were stock, but I've never even come close to bending or breaking mine. I suppose a sudden gust in the middle of a pitch could wreak havoc, however. ETA: I was actually moving the tent to a quieter place How did I miss this? I'm clear now. Okay, so I can see how you wouldn't simply CARRY the Lighthouse somewhere else IN WIND - it's well known as a "kite". After setting up the Lighthouse the first time, I envisioned problems. So when BD discontinued the Epic line, I snatched a 2nd Lighthouse for a really good price - not much above the cost of a set of poles - for this very reason. However, I have yet to open that package. I failed to snag another OneShot. I agree with everyone else: I'd use Tenacious Tape. I simply don't ever worry about appearances, and the small "acreage" of the repair won't matter at all.
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Post by dayhiker on Oct 22, 2015 10:21:25 GMT -8
That is the way I pitched, except I had to hold the pole while trying to Velcro it, which is hard to do if you are trying to open the Velcro tab and I had to repeat this, or the first one would pull out before I got the second done. I don't know if the tabs came loose when it flatten, they did not in the pole I did not break. Also he did not guy it out, I tried. They don't sell just one pole at BD - $75 blackdiamondequipment.com/en/hiking%2Fspare-parts/lighthouse-dac-pole-set-BD0811330000ALLS.html I may put it up for sale for parts
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Post by franco on Oct 22, 2015 15:21:57 GMT -8
"I had to hold the pole while trying to Velcro it, which is hard to do if you are trying to open the Velcro tab" Yes, undoing those Velcro strips is a two hand operation and true to the Bibler and BD tents. The trick here is to have those Velcro strips undone before inserting the poles . Once undone it's easy to hold the pole with one hand and do the Velcro up with the other.
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Post by dayhiker on Oct 22, 2015 16:49:24 GMT -8
MINE close by themselves so that wouldn't work for me
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Post by franco on Oct 22, 2015 17:40:37 GMT -8
When you undo them, bend the female part (the one with the pull loop) in two so that is slides under the male part. It won't stick to itself that way.
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Post by dayhiker on Oct 22, 2015 21:23:03 GMT -8
ok good idea
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Post by 1camper on Oct 27, 2015 15:58:56 GMT -8
If its not too close to a seam I'd try a patch of silnylon in a bed of McNett seam sealer. Put the patch on the inside, then after it dries, put some seam sealer over the outside.
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Post by 1camper on Oct 27, 2015 17:38:06 GMT -8
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Post by franco on Oct 27, 2015 18:46:41 GMT -8
Sil Net not Seam Grip....(Epic is a silicone treated fabric)
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