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Post by Westy on Nov 2, 2015 12:23:24 GMT -8
Some people may use a candle lantern our two (2) for ambience in lieu of the traditional campfire.
I'm usually very tired and exhausted at the end of the day. My ambience comes in the form of curling up in my sleeping bag and getting an extended good nights sleep.
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Post by 1camper on Nov 2, 2015 12:39:25 GMT -8
Moonlight shining thru a plastic bottle of fine bourbon provides a nice ambiance..
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Post by High Sierra Fan on Nov 2, 2015 12:44:49 GMT -8
"anything for campfire substitute": ambiance: it's quite surprising how much that same atmosphere can be generated by a simple candle lantern flame. They are better than a simple candle by itself be cause the latter housing provides protection for the flame from the inevitable wind and a way to hang the candle is desired. But a candle will provide a lot of the same flickering light atmosphere that a small fire would. I have an older version of the single candle version of this UCO style, the larger candle gives a long light time which is nice. www.rei.com/c/candle-lanterns?r=category%3Acamping-and-hiking%7Ccamp-lighting%7Clanterns%7Ccandle-lanterns&ir=category%3Alanterns&page=1
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Post by shrhiker on Nov 2, 2015 17:45:28 GMT -8
Generally speaking I'm not in favor of campfires in the backcountry.
However, being prepared to start a fire can be a life saver. A small fire has helped one my hiking partners recover from hypothermia on the SHR in 2003. I started a small (but illegal as it was above 10k ft) fire on the same hike when my hiking partner and I became separated. He had my tarp tent and I ended spending the night in freezing rain. In the morning I removed all traces of the fire and hiked out to report my partner missing. My son almost died in 2004 after our SHR trip when he went on an overnight 30 mile "dayhike" to retrieve our empty bear canister cache. My son an experienced Force Recon Marine Radioman had perhaps too much self confidence. He lost his way on the way back as he was caught in an early snow storm that buried the trail. He had the clothes on his back, a small pack to carry the canister, and was forced to spend the next night in the high teens. It's certainly a story of survival worthy of being told. Had he put a fire starter in his jacket, his odds of survival would have greatly increased and his discomfort factor reduced.
Another reason to carry enough to at least start a fire is for signaling and warmth should you become seriously injured or lost. Never underestimate the importance of fire in backcountry.
On one of my early JMT thru hikes my son and I had to hike through an active forest fire at Deer Meadows near the Golden Staircase leading up to the Palisade Lakes. The year before we had camped at Deer Meadows and I was disgusted with a number of large fire rings and the abundance of dead wood laying practically everywhere. The area appeared to be used by Packers, but I know they know how to douse their campfires. I have to hope the fire I hiked thru was started by lightning and not by a camper. In subsequent years, the fire there had scoured out a lot of dead wood.
So, I'm prepared to have a fire, especially in an emergency. That said, I don't like fires in the backcountry for many of the same reasons discussed in this thread by others here.
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Post by xiaolichen1988 on Nov 2, 2015 18:26:13 GMT -8
However, being prepared to start a fire can be a life saver. thank you for sharing these stories. I am happy that no one get hurt in the end. But i will keep in mind that things will go wrong sometimes.
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Post by tigger on Nov 2, 2015 18:48:25 GMT -8
I almost lost the ability to have children testing a campstove...in my garage. The ability to start a fire can sometimes be a danger...
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Post by rebeccad on Nov 2, 2015 18:53:15 GMT -8
I'd almost forgotten about candle lanterns. Yes, that offers a safe and mesmerizing flame! But I'd say you can also lose yourself really nicely staring up into the starry sky!
Of course, those can be hard to find if you are along the coast. I hope you'll get a chance to get out to the desert in the spring, and the Sierra in the summer, where you can see stars like you would not believe.
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Post by BigLoad on Nov 2, 2015 19:56:37 GMT -8
I find the candle lantern somewhat frustrating. It makes enough light to change clothes and rearrange gear, but not enough for me to read. I leave it for car camping. I'm most likely to spend the evening hours watching the sky and whatever wildlife happens by. Then it's time to read for as long as I can stay awake, especially at this time of year, when nights are longer than I should sleep.
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Post by tigger on Nov 2, 2015 20:23:44 GMT -8
Last spring on the ice sheets of Greenland, Candle lanterns were extremely important for us. Every night I had one in my tent. Without it, I experienced nearly a half inch of frost build up in our shelter. We could barely open the vents due to extreme winds that would bury the shelter with drifts. Yeah...I like my candle lanterns.
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Post by xiaolichen1988 on Nov 2, 2015 20:52:58 GMT -8
But I'd say you can also lose yourself really nicely staring up into the starry sky! i know,i love that too. this summer,i went to Bryce Canyon national park camping with my friends. it was amazing that i can see the galaxy clearly. we just star at it whole night. But i think it only some places can see it. I remember last time i went to Trinity alps wilderness for my backpacking trip. the only thing i can stare was a bright moon. haha,i think i prefer stare at star or campfire.
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Post by shrhiker on Nov 2, 2015 21:23:03 GMT -8
Well then, if your looking for ambience, then perhaps the Fireplace Magic HD app might do the trick. If you happen to carry an iPhone, then there is a free version in the App Store. I'd imagine there are other similar virtual campfire apps available. You might consider a backup charger, or even a solar charger, depending on how long you expect to be out. I put one on my TV years ago and managed to watch it long enough to make sure it flickered and crackled. I'd imagine it would simulate a campfire better than a candle. Just the same a candle can double as a safety device for starting a real fire. I mostly offer this this option in jest, but even a cellphone can come in handy in an emergency if there is cell coverage. P.S. Missy "X", would you consider letting the tribe here come up with a suitable trail name. If so, why not put up a post asking for ideas from us for a trail name. There are a lot of fun folks here, so this could be helpful and entertaining. We already know a little of your personality based on your current post. We could make this interactive. Here is the first idea that comes in my head --- MisFire.
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Post by xiaolichen1988 on Nov 2, 2015 22:11:01 GMT -8
P.S. Missy "X", would you consider letting the tribe here come up with a suitable trail name. haha, i like the idea of trail name, never have one.i like -misfire. I would very happy to see more ideas come out . shrhiker what is your trail name?how did you get it? I would like heard other people's trail name too. i think i can hear ton of stories if your guys willing to share.
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Post by 1camper on Nov 3, 2015 4:07:52 GMT -8
I think maybe you mean Miss Fire...you dont wanna use the other one around here..
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