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Post by antek55 on Jun 8, 2017 18:45:57 GMT -8
Quick question here. If i were to freeze 2 chicken breasts overnight and use the smallest cooler bag I can find will it stay cold enough or at least stay fresh to cook the next night? I heard a thermos works as well such as the big bubba one.
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Post by RumiDude on Jun 8, 2017 19:56:34 GMT -8
My off the cuff guess would be yes. Just make sure the juices don't leak out onto everything.
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Post by whistlepunk on Jun 8, 2017 20:01:05 GMT -8
Wrap in a couple layers of plastic, because leaking would be a big mess. Instead of a cooler try stuffing it into the center of your sleeping bag during the day, and a rolled up coat at night.
If available, use a regular freezer instead of the freezer compartment of your refrigerator. Real freezers tend to be colder.
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Post by rebeccad on Jun 8, 2017 20:36:58 GMT -8
I agree with all of the above. If it's really hot out, you might think about using it the first night.
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Post by antek55 on Jun 9, 2017 2:52:19 GMT -8
In the sleeping bag?? Man. Idk..im definately gonna be cooking it the next day. I would only need it frozen for about 12 hours.so If i were to put it in a sleeping bag..ziplock bag and then just saran wrap the he'll out of it?
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Post by sarbar on Jun 9, 2017 10:18:17 GMT -8
I wouldn't. But that is ME. I despise raw chicken juices at home...out in the wilds, it's even worse.
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Post by BigLoad on Jun 9, 2017 11:43:41 GMT -8
I wouldn't. But that is ME. I despise raw chicken juices at home...out in the wilds, it's even worse. I agree. My favorite meat on the trail is dehydrated pork shoulder or shredded beef brisket. It's not as satisfying as fresh-cooked chicken, but it's worry free and a lot less hassle once you're out there. |
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Post by swiftdream on Jun 9, 2017 15:37:04 GMT -8
If you double freezer bag it and freeze it I don't think you would have any leakage but you might want to test your idea before you go in similar temps. Freeze some ice cubes and see how cold they are in 12 hours, or something else might do for a test.
I would cook them at home first and then freeze them, again wrapping them in two freezer bags. Then what I do for any fresh foods I want to keep cold is put them in a Reflectix envelope that I have made, super light too. You can get the stuff by the foot at the hardware store for a few bucks. Aluminum tape is lighter than duct tape. That insulates real well and you can still stuff the whole thing down in your sleeping bag or down jacket for more insulation.
A third option if you really like chicken but want to be very sure is take a can of Trader Joe's Chicken in Broth. It is big enough for two, lot of meat in there and it is good, no additives. Use the broth in your cooking too. That won't be much heavier than coolers and insulators and no worries about thawing or leakage. You can make a number of dynamite dishes or substantial salads with it.
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Post by sarbar on Jun 9, 2017 16:37:34 GMT -8
I've weighed empty cans to pouches before, and it's the same  |
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Post by ErnieW on Jun 9, 2017 18:25:22 GMT -8
The problems are if during storage the outside of the chicken especially the juices aren't cold enough, even though the core may be frozen bacteria could start to thrive. Then when you go to cook it the frozen core may not get up to sterilization temp.
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Post by rebeccad on Jun 9, 2017 19:32:49 GMT -8
I've weighed empty cans to pouches before, and it's the same  That's good to know, as I've had trouble getting chicken in pouches lately. Though I'm as apt as not to dehydrate the canned chicken anyway. |
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Post by zeke on Jun 10, 2017 6:04:55 GMT -8
They may weigh the same, but for garbage purposes, I like pouches better. Just seems easier to deal with, taking up less bulk in the trash bag.
Or, you could go this way
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Post by swiftdream on Jun 10, 2017 13:10:28 GMT -8
I've weighed empty cans to pouches before, and it's the same I remember that. You and everyone else were all surprised. We have a 9 tray Excalibur and have used it for many things but since we have to carry all of our water it only makes sense for preserving foods. Some things do not re-hydrate like "fresh" even after an hour in steaming cozy if you know what I mean. But it is great for some things, just depends. |
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Post by sarbar on Jun 10, 2017 19:13:40 GMT -8
As for the cans, they squish flat ;-)
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Post by rebeccad on Jun 10, 2017 20:02:32 GMT -8
since we have to carry all of our water it only makes sense for preserving foods. Yeah, if I have to carry the water then I'm not drying my food. But for most situations, the weight and bulk reduction on the meats is worthwhile (Zeke's solution isn't bad, and maybe not even much more expensive. I wonder if it tastes as good). |
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