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Post by Lamebeaver on May 22, 2017 6:06:28 GMT -8
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Post by autumnmist on May 22, 2017 6:16:10 GMT -8
Score one for the elephants. It's too bad they couldn't take out more hunters before being shot by them.
I thought it was illegal to hunt on a game reserve, not that it would bother ivory hunters.
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Post by rebeccad on May 22, 2017 7:18:06 GMT -8
I thought it was illegal to hunt on a game reserve, not that it would bother ivory hunters. I'm puzzled, because this wasn't an ivory poacher, but a guy who led hunts for tourists. Like you, I would think a game preserve would be the sort of place where you can't hunt, but I guess we would be wrong. I feel for his family, but can't help being a little triumphant for the elephants--though it sounds like he was crushed by an elephant that had been shot, so still not a good exchange. And if people would stop paying to hunt these creatures (presumably so they can feel like Hemmingway or at least like big tough guys), then there would be a small bit more chances for the large African mammals to survive. In a way, I can't blame the guy for making a living filling a demand. |
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Post by johnnyray on May 22, 2017 7:45:38 GMT -8
Game preserved are different in Africa. Catering to well heeled hunters is what they do.
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Post by Deleted on May 22, 2017 8:08:17 GMT -8
I hope I find the links but there are places, on-line, where a person can pay a fee, aim a gun and shot an online gun. If the shot kills the animal, a few workers go out into the field, take the field dressed animal to the butcher where the animal is cut up, packaged, and sent to your home. At home 'you' can claim how you 'shot' an animal, whiles serving it to your friends and family. On the other hand a person can choose to go and shot the animal themselves: Four Horn Jacob Sheep Hunting Package: $2,500Only 5000 left, better shoot yours before they are all gone. Check em out, they got most of the last remaining Oryx on their land. Come on down and shoot one before they are all gone. |
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Post by johnnyray on May 22, 2017 8:38:38 GMT -8
An acquaintance of mine does canned hunts. He actually got fined at a ranch in Texas for shooting the wrong deer with his custom made rifle.
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Post by rebeccad on May 22, 2017 8:43:46 GMT -8
These people are sick.
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Post by hikingtiger on May 22, 2017 9:56:56 GMT -8
Check em out, they got most of the last remaining Oryx on their land. Come on down and shoot one before they are all gone. This Ox Ranch guy is full of himself. ALL the Arabian Oryx in the wild are animals released back from captive stock (per the African Wildlife Federation.) All flavors of Oryx total around 325k animals...many of which are located in Southern NM where some "genius" thought it would be a good idea to release them for hunting. You know what happens when you release an animal that is in rut all year long into a suitable environment with no natural predators, right? And these things have a bad attitude. Their 4' long horns will go through a car door as one fellow found out (luckily, he didn't get hurt.) |
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Post by BigLoad on May 22, 2017 13:44:25 GMT -8
I hope I find the links but there are places, on-line, where a person can pay a fee, aim a gun and shot an online gun. If the shot kills the animal, a few workers go out into the field, take the field dressed animal to the butcher where the animal is cut up, packaged, and sent to your home. At home 'you' can claim how you 'shot' an animal, whiles serving it to your friends and family. On the other hand a person can choose to go and shot the animal themselves: Four Horn Jacob Sheep Hunting Package: $2,500Only 5000 left, better shoot yours before they are all gone. That must be how many are left in the wild. While they aren't a major agricultural breed, Jacob sheep are raised all over the place. They're quite popular with the 4-H crowd due to their exotic appearance. |
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Post by ErnieW on May 22, 2017 17:34:01 GMT -8
I am not sure from the article that they were hunting elephants, just that they came across some that were in rut/heat. Not a good state to run into elephants in.
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Post by balzaccom on May 22, 2017 17:52:20 GMT -8
I am not a hunter. But I do understand how hunting plays a role in Africa. Tourists won't pay anything like the fees that hunters will pay, and many of those regions are desperately poor. If not for hunting, there are few people in the region who would do anything to help save or protect the animals--they would rather eat them, frankly.
It's a bit like trophy trout water in this country, where allowing people to fish for big trout attracts tourism...even though some of the locals would prefer to be able to catch and eat the fish. But of course, the economics in Africa are far more extreme.
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Post by snowman626 on May 22, 2017 20:09:11 GMT -8
I hate everything about this kind of hunting but I don't want to see someone die in a situation like this. Terrible for this person's family.
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Post by BigLoad on May 22, 2017 21:02:44 GMT -8
I hope I find the links but there are places, on-line, where a person can pay a fee, aim a gun and shot an online gun. If the shot kills the animal, a few workers go out into the field, take the field dressed animal to the butcher where the animal is cut up, packaged, and sent to your home. At home 'you' can claim how you 'shot' an animal, whiles serving it to your friends and family. On the other hand a person can choose to go and shot the animal themselves: Four Horn Jacob Sheep Hunting Package: $2,500Only 5000 left, better shoot yours before they are all gone. That must be how many are left in the wild. While they aren't a major agricultural breed, Jacob sheep are raised all over the place. They're quite popular with the 4-H crowd due to their exotic appearance. The more I think about this, the crazier it seems. They act just as you would expect of a sheep: standing still and chewing grass nearly all the time. They wouldn't be any harder to shoot than a road sign. I don't know what the attraction is, except that most of them have four horns. (Some don't). |
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Post by rebeccad on May 23, 2017 15:02:29 GMT -8
They wouldn't be any harder to shoot than a road sign. I don't know what the attraction is, I suspect that IS the attraction. I'm guessing that a fair number of the "hunters" would have trouble hitting a road sign. |
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Post by zeke on May 23, 2017 15:26:46 GMT -8
I have a friend who thought he wanted to shoot a Cape Buffalo with his bow. When I returned from Kenya and showed him some to the buffalo footage we had on video, he changed his mind. "If they will just stand there and let you walk up within range, where's the fun?" was something along the lines of his answer.
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