tigger
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Post by tigger on Feb 14, 2017 7:57:28 GMT -8
You made a great call...It was one of my most impressive purchases and I've made some great ones.
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almostthere
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Post by almostthere on Feb 14, 2017 12:13:49 GMT -8
Had they been around when I ordered my quilts, I would probably have one. But I intend to wear out the quilts I have before I buy a new one....
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Post by dayhiker on Feb 14, 2017 21:39:07 GMT -8
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Post by georgeofthej on Feb 15, 2017 1:12:09 GMT -8
I bought an Enigma 2 or 3 years ago and finally got the chance to use it last weekend on an overnight trip. I did test it in the yard a couple times before the trip, both to see how warm it was and just to get used to sleeping in a quilt. It's the most expensive single piece of backpacking gear I own, so I'm glad I finally used it.
I like the quilt. Once I got used to using the straps to keep myself fully covered, I found it a little more comfortable than a sleeping bag.
Mine is regular width, 10 degree rating. I sleep cold usually and need a bag or quilt rated for temps lower than actual temps. On last weekend's trip the overnight low was 17 degrees. I was on snow with three closed cell pads: two full length and one 3/4 length. In conjunction with the quilt I wore a fleece balaclava, mid weight Smartwool top and bottoms, a fleece shirt, fleece pants, and thick socks. I was warm enough and slept pretty well.
---George
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Post by daveb on Feb 15, 2017 6:27:13 GMT -8
I purchased the revelation with 0° rating and 800 down fill and I agree with what JRinGeorgia said about it being a good choice for variable temps that could be warmer than the rating.
I slept in the revelation in 20° temps and it was ok but I would have preferred my westernmountaineering badger on those colder nights.
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Post by hikerdennis on Feb 15, 2017 12:08:51 GMT -8
Mine is regular width, 10 degree rating. I sleep cold usually and need a bag or quilt rated for temps lower than actual temps. On last weekend's trip the overnight low was 17 degrees. I was on snow with three closed cell pads: two full length and one 3/4 length. In conjunction with the quilt I wore a fleece balaclava, mid weight Smartwool top and bottoms, a fleece shirt, fleece pants, and thick socks. I was warm enough and slept pretty well. That is good to hear, it makes me think that I made the right decision in choice.
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Post by hikerdennis on Feb 15, 2017 12:16:04 GMT -8
(Enlightenment claims) The loft of the revelation 20 degs is 2.5" while the HyperLamina™ Flame 20 (Regular) is 5" , assuming that includes top and bottom that is alse 2.5". , but others things effect warmth. This would make good sense if you are of the belief that loft/warmth is lost when you are laying on top of the down on the underside of the sleeping bag. So all you are losing is the 2.5" on the underside of the bag that might not have provided that much insulation to begin with.
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Post by plodalong on Feb 17, 2017 4:50:18 GMT -8
I have actually bought 5 Revelations from EE, (With all those "Revelations" I should be a Guru and live in a cave somewhere) First off, we bought 2 -10 degrees with Downtek, 900s,10.10.with a 20 stripe on bottom. We have a cabin in Northern Maine and with winter hiking we have tested them as low as 18 and both of us were cozy,(with longies on of course). Then we bought two 40 degs for summer etc and have actually got them to high 30's and were great. I tend to get cold before my wife does and I was fine. The Fifth bag was bought after a whoops in the dryer, my wife thought the heat was off but it wasn't and burned a hole in it which we repaired with tenacious tape but we did loose some down. My wife is 5ft tall and her first Rev was an Extra Short, her second one she bumped up to Short, hardly any weight penalty but more 'tuck in and snuggle' room. We then bought the straps that allows us to combine our 10 degs with our 40degs and stack them up for even colder use. We have carried the straps but yet to actually need them since the nights didn't get as cold as predicted! (Checkout their site on how to do this!) A note on service, I ordered the wrong straps to double up our quilts and called them, they overnighted them that morning and I had them in hand the next day!
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Post by daveg on Feb 17, 2017 20:43:43 GMT -8
No personal experience but last summer I met a southbound thru-hiker on the AT who was a rocket scientist (aerospace engineer) and had nothing but top quality UL gear (Zpacks cuben fiber tent, EE quilt, etc). He raved about his EE quilt and said it was his favorite piece of gear.
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Post by huntnhike on Feb 19, 2017 23:34:26 GMT -8
I bought a 20* revelation for me and a 10* for my wife. Last week. Can't wait to try them out this summer!
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toejam
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Post by toejam on Feb 23, 2017 4:23:21 GMT -8
Do any of you quilters use a down hood? EE's is kinda pricey.
I also like the looks of the Enigma. Not sure I want the option for a blanket over a full-time foot box.
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Post by trinity on Feb 23, 2017 4:51:56 GMT -8
Do any of you quilters use a down hood? EE's is kinda pricey. I also like the looks of the Enigma. Not sure I want the option for a blanket over a full-time foot box. I don't use a hood. If it's cold enough to need one, I generally have my Ultralight Down Hoody, which I can use to augment my sleep system. I got a Revelation because I wanted the flexibility of being able to open up the footbox, but the truth is that in the 3 or so years I've owned it I have yet to use it with the footbox open. I think the Enigma would be a good choice.
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Post by zeke on Feb 23, 2017 4:56:19 GMT -8
No hood. I went with a sewn foot box because I knew I'd never use it opened up. If my head gets cold, I have a fleece hat.
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Post by ashepabst on Feb 23, 2017 6:35:00 GMT -8
I got a down hood (Zpacks) for Christmas the year before last. I haven't yet had a whole lotta chances to use it, but I did use it with a mummy bag on trip a few months ago. I've seen bouts of claustrophobia while being completely zipped-up in a mummy bag. most of the time I'm fine, but sometimes I just can't stand it. I feel like the hood helped with that, but time will tell for sure.
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Post by georgeofthej on Feb 24, 2017 0:47:37 GMT -8
I can't see much value in being able to open the foot box with the 20 degree or colder rated quilts. If the temperature is down in the 20s or teens, I don't want any part of me to be cold. Even a little cold spot somewhere will mess up my sleep. So I wouldn't open a foot box and have my feet get cold. Or does it not work like that?
One drawback with my quilt is that since it is a snug fit, there was no room for me to put other stuff in with me to keep it from freezing. Some people put their boots in trash bags and then in their sleeping bags with them. I woke up to frozen boots.
---George
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