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Post by trinity on Aug 15, 2015 6:42:47 GMT -8
For those of you who catch and eat fish in the back country, how do you normally prepare your fish? I love to fish, but rarely keep anything I catch. When I do keep and eat, I typically just fry in a little oil, but that creates some pretty strong odors when in bear country. How do folks cook, and what additional bear precautions do you take?
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Post by trinity on Aug 15, 2015 6:46:41 GMT -8
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Post by echo on Aug 15, 2015 9:07:18 GMT -8
I wouldn't cook fish in bear country, but if you do, clean it a long long ways from where you are sleeping and remember even your hair and clothes will absorb those odors. Maybe sleep with a yappy dog.
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Post by trinity on Aug 15, 2015 13:38:37 GMT -8
remember even your hair and clothes will absorb those odors That's really my biggest concern, especially with frying. Poaching might be a better option in that regard. Maybe sleep with a yappy dog. Usually I have a rather large dog with me, but he probably won't accompany me on my next trip. Plus, I'm pretty sure the added security he provides me from bears is more perceived than real. No doubt, though, I sleep better when he's with me.
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Post by ecocentric on Aug 15, 2015 13:51:48 GMT -8
If you can build a fire, I like to roast them on a spit. A good green willow stick will work, and when you are done you can burn it. Echo is right about cooking well away from camp. If you don't hover over it while you cook, and wash your hands thoroughly, you should be ok. How to Cook Fish on a Campfire
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Post by echo on Aug 15, 2015 15:10:08 GMT -8
I'm not sure the difference between poaching and frying will matter there, but I know once you gut the fish, the Bears will smell that for a long distance. It is wise to keep it away from camp of course, but also enjoy your trip and don't worry too much. Prepare but dare to go.
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Post by swimswithtrout on Aug 16, 2015 12:54:26 GMT -8
I always clean them wherever I'm fishing, which is usually at least a mile or two from camp. When I cook anywhere in bear country, I cook a min. of 200-400yds from camp.
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Post by markskor on Aug 17, 2015 13:58:41 GMT -8
Cooking Trout Backcountry – Below that line where campfires are legal / allowed, (much like Bubba Gump shrimp), there are literally thousands of different variations/numerous ways of cooking trout using hot coals. What they all have in common is hot coals so I’ll start there. Build/stoke up the fire twenty minutes prior, letting it then die down some, amassing a decent pile of larger chunky, hot coals. There will be no fire to be seen per se, but just lots of hot embers that will last ~15 minutes. After that, you can fry, sauté, poach, bake, boil…BBQ. However, a pot with a lid, and/or a frying pan, and/or a metal grate, and/or aluminum foil, and/or a stick is also needed.
Cook the trout up teriyaki style, as fish tacos, pan fried, trout almondine, smoked, meuniere, butterflied, planked, blackened, wrapped with bacon, cooked in a pouch, grilled, use lemon, Ritz-crusted. There are on-line recipes for Mushroom and Artichoke Stuffed Trout, Trout Fricassee, Trout Orleans, Escabeche of Trout, Portuguese-style Trout, Citrus Trout Almondine, Cornmeal-Crusted Trout, and Bacon Grilled Cajun Trout. There is Trout with Pecan Meuniere Sauce, Smoked Trout Saladl…just to name a few. :-)
Google for the recipes.
Above 10,000 feet in the Sierra Nevada, in the “no fires allowed” zone, obviously there will be no (legal) embers or hot coals to cook over… thus some sort of stove (to be legal, one with a required shut-off valve) will be needed. Regarding stove selection, I prefer a remote canister stove like the MSR Windpro or similar. A white gas stove works well at altitude too but then you also are dealing with white gas fumes, gas spillage, and additional weight issues. Alcohol stoves are pretty much useless for cooking fish at altitude. Along with a hot/wide-flamed/stable stove of your choosing you will also need to carry a fry pan and/ or a pot with a lid. Here are three, possible, high altitude, trout cooking methods – play with spices to achieve your desired flavor:
Poached – submerge the fish in a gently simmering liquid such as court bouillon, other stocks, or water flavored with aromatics including spices, citrus, or vegetables. Cover and simmer for 8 – 10 minutes or until trout is opaque and flakes easily when tested with a fork. Result: tasty but mushy trout.
Pan Fried – in a (larger-the-better) skillet/fry pan, heat 3 – 4 tsps oil over medium-high heat. (Optional – In shallow dish, combine flour, cornmeal, salt and pepper. Dredge fish in flour mixture.) Fry trout in hot oil for about 4 to 6 minutes on each side or until meat flakes with a fork. Serve immediately. Result: excellent recipe – simple – great trout flavor – clean-up however, can be a messy pain.
Foil Wrapped – make/carry a few heavy-duty aluminum foil squares – 18″ by 18″ – folded in quarters to carry. Wrap spiced trout (+/- heads & tails) in an aluminum foil packet with a little olive oil sprinkled/drizzled outside of the trout. (Important – the oil is essential as it is what actually cooks the trout.) Seal packets up tightly around the trout. (Tip: if cooking smaller trout – 2 or 3 trout to a packet works OK too.) Heat up the frying pan until hot – place 1 or 2 assembled packets of trout in the fry pan, held down / in close contact with the hot pan by a flat rock. Turn packets over occasionally – 10 – 15 minutes total cooking time, depending on how big the trout are and how hot your stove/ fry pan gets. Trout is done when the backbone lifts cleanly away from the meat. Result: great flavor and no cleanup other than the spent foil. Please carry out all the foil remains.
High or low altitude, this last recipe (foil wrapped) has proven to be my preferred trout cooking method. When using foil packets in lower elevations, where fires are legal, just cook them by throwing the fish packets into the coals…
Good Eats!
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Post by markskor on Aug 17, 2015 16:10:55 GMT -8
To add - The following is an article/discussion on some culinary aspects of Sierra trout, safe practices, keeping some to eat, how to gut/clean a trout.
Trout Keeping – For many anglers, catch and release (C&R) does not necessarily mean all trout caught have to be released – some are destined for dinner. The questions is, which ones to keep and how many? Tough decision – all depends on size, local fishing regulations, and appetite. By the way, wild, freshly-caught, trout do not travel well long distances and especially un-refrigerated – please keep only what you will definitely eat immediately – never waste this prized resource. Small trout, although tasty, are a pain to cook. Large lunkers (excluding stockers) should always be returned back to the water (or never taken out?) as they are prime Sierra breeding stock. If a trout dinner is planned (and the fishing good) if at all possible try to keep/select a few of the fatter fish (ones with shoulders?) in the 12 – 14 inch range. Beyond keeping fish based upon size, no matter how careful one may be (when practicing good C & R, always use single hooks only, no trebles ever!), trout will at times be inadvertently gill caught. More times than not trout are destined to die momentarily once the gill arch shows any signs of bleeding so you might as well keep these too.
Where/How to Keep Trout Fresh – After deciding that this one is a keeper/dinner – what’s next? At first, after clearing the hook (hemostat to remove), previously you would just run a stringer through the gills/mouth and tie off the stringer to any convenient rock/bush letting the roped fish swim/ remain alive in the water. However, recent evidence shows this method is actually cruel to the fish and the resultant “being caught” trauma sends out caustic internal chemicals inside the fish causing once-firm meat to break down quickly (changing the taste?). This process occurs from the moment a fish is caught until (once initiated) long after the trout expires. Better a sharp wrap on the fish’s head immediately to quickly arrest any unnecessary deterioration of the meat.
Additionally, (even though there is no real evidence backing this up other than observation) stringered, live, swimming trout (Golden trout anyway) may be able to somehow magically communicate their plight to other nearby trout – a warning to others not to bite in the vicinity of the caught area. (I could be wrong here though.)
Carry a large gallon-sized baggie – expired trout then sealed up, tight/dry and kept cool inside same, either underwater under a rock, somewhere in the shade, or covered/stashed in a nearby snow field until cleaning time and heading back to camp.
How to Clean a Trout – Some like the idea of filleting trout, some don’t… As trout are not that big and the bones come out clean when cooked correctly, I never do. If you want, you can Google search on various filleting methods, many of which include detailed how-to pictures. If like me and you’re not a fillet-er, there are two main techniques – both similar.
Take a knife (no Bowie needed here – a small, sharp, Swiss Army Knife will suffice) and insert 1/2 inch into the anus cavity (small hole) and cut up through the belly, towards the head. Some cut all the way past the pectorals, past the gill arch, and some stop just short of the pectoral connectors. Personally, I prefer the second way. Create one small 1/4″ side-to-side slice cutting the little white connective tissue (base of tongue) ventral, between the gills and head, then take your thumb and insert into the gill ring, from the bottom front (not at the mouth), into the cavity under the remaining connected flesh, (the part still joined/under the pectorals). Tug down and away, pulling out the gills and all internals. As you’re pulling this away, the pectorals should follow and pull away clean too along with the gills/ guts. If the initial cut was made past the pectorals, then these unwanted fins will remain/ stay with the fish. TIP: A good idea at cleaning time is to check the stomach contents to see what the fish was eating as this information may be useful in selecting a pattern to later on catch his/her buddies.
After pulling out all loose objects from the fish body cavity you’ll notice a dark vein that extends along the entire length deep inside of the fish. This vein must be cleaned/ removed. Using top of your thumbnail like the back of a shovel, scrape away this red/dark red vein, starting at the rear and moving forward. When you have all the blood remains loosened up, expose the underlying spine by simply shaking the carcass in the water removing anything that may be left over. A final good rinse, the fish is now clean, ready to cook.
Some anglers opt to leave the head and tail on the fish, some discard them. Keeping or removing these parts is all up to you. The choice usually depends in part on both the individual trout’s length and the pan size carried and available for use at the time.
As to where to throw the guts...Some prefer to chuck them in the bushes, out of sight - the idea is that ants, rodents, etc need to eat too/ will dispose of any nutrients quickly. Some throw guts back into the lake/stream as nutrients but be sure to throw them out far & deep - never visible from shore and certainly not at some place where water is usually gathered. Fast moving streams are also a great disposal technique. Different places have local regulations on this - ask.
As for cooking away from camp and bears - This entire post is only about Black Bears - not Grizzlies. BTW, have caught and cooked 1000's of trout in our regular "kitchen" at the campsite in the Sierra and never have had any bear problems with left-over food odors attracting bears. YMMV.
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Post by trinity on Aug 17, 2015 18:32:07 GMT -8
Lots of great info here, thanks!
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Post by swimswithtrout on Aug 21, 2015 16:52:13 GMT -8
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