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Post by reuben on Jan 12, 2017 5:28:27 GMT -8
Just dayhikes. 2 miles? 2 hours? Hills? I don't want to wear him out and then return a Mr. Crankypants to his parents. If his legs are sore he could be cranky for a few days.
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Post by foxalo on Jan 12, 2017 6:34:41 GMT -8
I think it all depends on the 3-yr old. I'd avoid steep hills, unless there are rocks to climb on, but little ones should be fun. I'd go with a time vs a distance. Two hours should be doable. Be prepared for it to be slow going, because they'll want to stop and see and touch everything. Just have fun with it.
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Post by VAN on Jan 12, 2017 7:39:43 GMT -8
My 4 year old still doesn't like to walk unassisted for more than a mile. We're trying to work on this. We do a lot of stopping and sometimes bribe him with something to get him moving. A snack usually does the trick.
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Post by rebeccad on Jan 12, 2017 9:17:11 GMT -8
Yeah, it's VERY variable. A rule of thumb is a mile per year of age, but I think at 3 that's optimistic. I like Foxy's answer--plan to go out for a couple of hours, and don't have any expectations about how far you go. You might find an irresistible pile of rocks 200 yards from the car and get no farther--and that's fine. When Second Son was just past 3, we did our first "backpack" when the boys did all their own walking. It was 2 miles and 1000' up from the car, and took 4 hours. Yup, you read that correctly. Lots and lots of time poking things and throwing rocks in the stream. A lunch stop. More snacks than you can imagine.
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Post by reuben on Jan 12, 2017 9:27:48 GMT -8
Yeah, I know it'll be slow, but that's fine . I want him to learn and explore.
My main concern is the first half of the hike. There are single track sections cut into the side of the hill, with sections of small tree roots and one or two long hills where I'll probably need to help him, or at least protect him. It takes me about 1/2 hour, so probably about a mile. But this is the section along the river, where we're likely to see bald eagles, ospreys, herons, and egrets.
If he does ok there the second half of the loop is flat, so if he's tired the hard part is already over.
The whole loop is about 2 miles.
I guess there's nothing to do but try it and see how it goes.
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Post by foxalo on Jan 12, 2017 11:05:35 GMT -8
Worse car scenario is you end up giving him a piggyback ride back. Three year olds aren't that heavy.
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Post by reuben on Jan 12, 2017 15:01:57 GMT -8
Worse car scenario is you end up giving him a piggyback ride back. Three year olds aren't that heavy. Hmmm... I usually take a small daypack with water, jacket, hat, etc. Mabe he'd like a ride in a 50 or 60 liter pack...
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Post by trinity on Jan 12, 2017 18:15:22 GMT -8
In my experience, the distance a three year old can walk varies quite a bit, not only from one child to another, but with the same child from one day to the next. Three year old boys can be quite volatile (at least our boy certainly was), and things can go south at the drop of a hat. We never took our son out at that age without a child carrier, and he was rarely able to hike more than a mile or so, not so much because of physical ability, but whineyness and boredom. Be thinking of motivations that tend to work for him. Our son loves waterfalls, streams to splash in, and dogs to pet, so we look for hikes where any or all of these things might be a possibility. I doubt that sore legs are going to be an issue, he will likely have a complete meltdown long before this happens.
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Post by T4 on Jan 13, 2017 5:01:49 GMT -8
I think it really depends on the trail. It helps to have a trail with a lot of variety for them to explore and play. I know when my son was three we had some success on a four mile hike (2 miles each way) using different adventures I knew about up ahead as incentive. (Just up the trail is a waterfall where we can take a break a swim, just up the trail is a small cave, just up the trail are some great climbing rocks, etc.) It took us all day, but it was a memorable and fun trip.
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Post by Westy on Jan 13, 2017 9:02:01 GMT -8
With our son at age three, he had the capacity to hike a small peak, a round-trip of 3½ miles with an elevation gain of 1,587'. There were a few sections on ascent where he preferred the child carrier. On the descent about a half-mile out from the TH he went back in the child carrier. We did this hike several times and he was solo at age 4. The standard time for this hike is 3-4 hours. For us more like 6 hours. He also needed time to rest as well a let loose at a few spots like stream bead or aspen grove to play around. Word of caution on child carriers. They have a tendency to rub on the calves of the youngster as you hike along, especially if the child falls asleep. Recommend long pants and make at home-made fabric wrap with Velcro to cover the outside diameter of exposed aluminum components of the child carrier. Using the hood feature is important also as hats fall off.
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Post by tarol on May 1, 2017 14:08:16 GMT -8
My son could do about 4 miles at that age, but he loved it and has always been an active and motivated little fellow. He even liked to go up hill, crazy kid. Up until recently I would carry an Infantino Sash Mei Tei carrier (good for kids up to 36 pounds) and that way I could give him a lift if needed and that would increase our range by a couple of miles. Now he's over 40 pounds, but I can still carry him for short distances, but rarely need to anymore
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Post by ErnieW on May 1, 2017 15:36:23 GMT -8
We would take our twin girls out in carry packs when they were younger. We would use hiking poles and had them wear their bike helmets in case one of us fell. Were we being overprotective or do others do this too?
Now at five they walk for the most part. Some days they are full of energy and go and go, others they want to go home pretty quickly.
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Post by rebeccad on May 27, 2017 16:55:10 GMT -8
We would use hiking poles and had them wear their bike helmets in case one of us fell. Were we being overprotective or do others do this too? Never put the boys in helmets, but I started using poles (which were kind of a newer thing then) when I was carrying them in packs, after I'd stumbled and twisted an ankle pretty badly. I was sold on poles from the 1st trial.
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Post by ErnieW on May 28, 2017 3:55:12 GMT -8
Never put the boys in helmets, but I started using poles (which were kind of a newer thing then) when I was carrying them in packs, after I'd stumbled and twisted an ankle pretty badly. I was sold on poles from the 1st trial. In NY here kids have to wear helmets for riding in the bike trailer so they had the helmets and were very used to them. We figured that heaven forbid we had a fall with them in the packs they could be brought down hard on a rock or tree trunk.
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Post by rebeccad on May 28, 2017 9:22:33 GMT -8
In NY here kids have to wear helmets for riding in the bike trailer True here, too, but we never took the kids on our bikes (I wasn't riding much then anyway). So it basically never occurred to us. We were very aware of the risk of banging the kid's head on branches, etc. Using the sun shade make that less of a concern. The good news is when I fell, it was more forward, which is probably typical. Good argument for being sure the kid is secured in the pack, though, as I could have sent him flying.
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