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Post by chris on Oct 29, 2016 17:30:42 GMT -8
So today I was at my local sporting good store and happened to notice that one of the sleeping bags (this one to be specific) Packed down to the size of a small melon / grape fruit. was just wondering if this was now the norm, obviously I'm still using an older style bag ( but it's always worked for me). on a side note if anyone has experience with this bag I'd love to hear your thoughts Thanks -Chris
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Post by crawford on Oct 29, 2016 18:11:37 GMT -8
That size makes sense for a 40-50 degree bag. Lots of makers are hitting that size. Weight does seem to vary a bit, depending on what fill is used. You can find down quilts or bags that pack down that small as well but go quite a bit deeper into the cold range.
I haven't used that particular Marmot, but I've used other ones and been very satisfied with their products. You are bound to get a variety of opinions on bags though. This one would probably work well for late Spring, Summer, so long as not at higher altitude.
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Post by chris on Oct 29, 2016 18:27:38 GMT -8
That size makes sense for a 40-50 degree bag. Lots of makers are hitting that size. Weight does seem to vary a bit, depending on what fill is used. You can find down quilts or bags that pack down that small as well but go quite a bit deeper into the cold range. I haven't used that particular Marmot, but I've used other ones and been very satisfied with their products. You are bound to get a variety of opinions on bags though. This one would probably work well for late Spring, Summer, so long as not at higher altitude. Currently using a synthetic 30 degree mummy bag but it's easily twice the size of the bag I saw today.
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Post by jazzmom on Oct 29, 2016 20:12:45 GMT -8
It's EN comfort rated to 56 degF. We're not talking about a very warm bag. You'd probably be even more amazed how small a 50-degree down bag will compress down to.
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Post by chris on Oct 29, 2016 20:27:33 GMT -8
It's EN comfort rated to 56 degF. We're not talking about a very warm bag. You'd probably be even more amazed how small a 50-degree down bag will compress down to. I saw that marmot earlier today and was stunned, considering most of my trips have been in Florida I was mainly looking for a lighter weight bag and saw this one would even cut down on space. I know I prefer to be cooler when sleeping and in my 30 degree bag I either have to leave it open or sleep on top of it like a pad, depending on on humidity / temperature for the night.
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Post by crawford on Oct 29, 2016 20:32:40 GMT -8
Saving weight is awesome, simultaneously saving pack space is bliss. If you are looking at warmer month hiking in FL, a bag like that will probably do you pretty well. Obviously look at bag size to be sure of a good fit.
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Post by chris on Oct 29, 2016 20:42:11 GMT -8
Yes I find that I don't really utilize the potential of my current bag now (although I'd like to hike some where I could) so I figured I'd look at warmer bags. Don't suppose you have any personal recommendations in that same price point?
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Post by tigger on Oct 29, 2016 20:51:32 GMT -8
No offense but that is just a generic synthetic bag with a bunch of gimmick words thrown in. I'd be waiting till spring and grabbing a down bag on sale. Marmot in general make good products. However, this bag is nothing special. The only thing good is that at least it is EN-Rated.
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Post by chris on Oct 29, 2016 20:56:24 GMT -8
No offense but that is just a generic synthetic bag with a bunch of gimmick words thrown in. I'd be waiting till spring and grabbing a down bag on sale. Marmot in general make good products. However, this bag is nothing special. The only thing good is that at least it is EN-Rated. None taken, just trying to learn / get the best bang for my buck.
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Post by tigger on Oct 29, 2016 22:01:01 GMT -8
For comparison, I have a +40F Golite Featherlite Down bag that weighs 1 lb, 4 oz and stuffs down to a grapefruit easily. There is nothing on the market that compares to Down. I paid $125 for mine. I use mine year round in temps down to 0F with clothing supplement.
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Post by chris on Oct 30, 2016 4:59:53 GMT -8
For comparison, I have a +40F Golite Featherlite Down bag that weighs 1 lb, 4 oz and stuffs down to a grapefruit easily. There is nothing on the market that compares to Down. I paid $125 for mine. I use mine year round in temps down to 0F with clothing supplement. I'm sorry I know this is a little off topic but what does the "+" mean in front of the temp rating? Is it safe to assume that once you step up to a down bag (within a certain price point) that most major manufacturers produce similar quality products? Are there certain features / materials one should look for?
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Post by jazzmom on Oct 30, 2016 5:42:20 GMT -8
Yes I find that I don't really utilize the potential of my current bag now (although I'd like to hike some where I could) so I figured I'd look at warmer bags. Don't suppose you have any personal recommendations in that same price point? Let's start over. What temperature range are you planning to use this bag in? Do you care whether it's down or synthetic? Is the 6' length the right length for you? Do you care that it's a sleeping bag as opposed to a quilt? You can save weight on a quilt because you really don't need a hood at those temperature ranges. I think the bag you linked to was $79 -- so is your price point around $100, or less, or...? Just for comparison, a "good" synthetic 40deg quilt will cost about twice that amount (~$150) but will weigh less than a pound (the Marmot sleeping bag you linked to weighs 1lb 13oz.) "Good", in general, means accurately rated for temperature, well-constructed and better warmth-to-weight ratio.
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Post by chris on Oct 30, 2016 6:15:06 GMT -8
Yes I find that I don't really utilize the potential of my current bag now (although I'd like to hike some where I could) so I figured I'd look at warmer bags. Don't suppose you have any personal recommendations in that same price point? Let's start over. What temperature range are you planning to use this bag in? Do you care whether it's down or synthetic? Is the 6' length the right length for you? Do you care that it's a sleeping bag as opposed to a quilt? You can save weight on a quilt because you really don't need a hood at those temperature ranges. I think the bag you linked to was $79 -- so is your price point around $100, or less, or...? Sorry I guess some prior info would be helpful. Approximately 5'10" coldest nights would (usually) be above freezing. Don't really have a preference down to synthetic as I've only ever had synthetic. Mostly looking for weight / space savings, Space being more a factor (marginally) than weight. Not brand loyal, I judge products based on quality not a name. $100 price range is preferred. Never considered a quilt.
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Post by tigger on Oct 30, 2016 7:15:41 GMT -8
Sorry I guess some prior info would be helpful. Approximately 5'10" coldest nights would (usually) be above freezing. Don't really have a preference down to synthetic as I've only ever had synthetic. Mostly looking for weight / space savings, Space being more a factor (marginally) than weight. Not brand loyal, I judge products based on quality not a name. $100 price range is preferred. Never considered a quilt. +40F means it is 40 Fahrenheit (above freezing) as compared to my setup that takes me to -60F. If weight/space savings is preferred, Down will win every time, by a significant amount. $100 as a budget is tight but doable in the temp range. However, most bags will probably be 550 - 650 fill (more percentage of feathers). I would shoot for the 650 fill bags obviously. The loft in a down bag will outlast a synthetic by many years.
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Post by chris on Oct 30, 2016 7:31:07 GMT -8
Sorry I guess some prior info would be helpful. Approximately 5'10" coldest nights would (usually) be above freezing. Don't really have a preference down to synthetic as I've only ever had synthetic. Mostly looking for weight / space savings, Space being more a factor (marginally) than weight. Not brand loyal, I judge products based on quality not a name. $100 price range is preferred. Never considered a quilt. +40F means it is 40 Fahrenheit (above freezing) as compared to my setup that takes me to -60F. If weight/space savings is preferred, Down will win every time, by a significant amount. $100 as a budget is tight but doable in the temp range. However, most bags will probably be 550 - 650 fill (more percentage of feathers). I would shoot for the 650 fill bags obviously. The loft in a down bag will outlast a synthetic by many years. OK so the + just designates above freezing. So a 50° bag = a +50°. And then obviously the - is temp below zero? (I'm pretty sure I'm over thinking it lol) so I should look for a 650 fill down bag priced around $100. After some quick Googling I've determined I should also look for a bag with baffles instead of being swen through and that I don't need a full length zipper.
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