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Post by High Sierra Fan on Oct 21, 2016 0:07:20 GMT -8
Got the vest 2 yrs +. Scary light. Great build quality. Very warm.
Made in Vancouver.
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Post by jazzmom on Oct 22, 2016 4:35:53 GMT -8
I think the Terralite is a pretty new model? I have the Summerlite and Ultralite. Looks like the Terralite is right in the middle temperature-wise but a wider girth. If you're comfortable sleeping in a mummy bag, then I'd get the girth that "fits" best. I've found that a well-fitting bag is significantly warmer than one that's got a lot of extra volume. You save the weight and are warmer to boot.
Otherwise, WM bags are really good bags. The DWR is really effective. Nicely designed differential cuts, good draft protection. These small details really help with the temperature rating, IMO.
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Post by johntpenca on Oct 22, 2016 10:51:03 GMT -8
If you're comfortable sleeping in a mummy bag, then I'd get the girth that "fits" best. I've found that a well-fitting bag is significantly warmer than one that's got a lot of extra volume. You save the weight and are warmer to boot. Agree with jazzmom. I have a WM Apache which is just a bit tight. It has a high warmth to weight ratio. I bought a 6' bag and am 5'9" and weigh 145 lbs. Wish I would have bought something with a little roomier cut.
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Post by High Sierra Fan on Oct 22, 2016 15:34:51 GMT -8
"Wish I would have bought something with a little roomier cut."
It's definitely important to consider these as much clothing as anything else: fit matters.
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Post by hikerjer on Oct 22, 2016 20:41:27 GMT -8
All things aside , Sven. What have you done to deserve and early birthday present much less and early Christmas present. As my mother always said, "patience is a virtue". On the other hand, I do understand it's getting cold out there.
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Post by Lamebeaver on Oct 25, 2016 11:43:35 GMT -8
I'll never buy another bag that doesn't have a pocket for a sleeping pad. Once you've slept with Big Agnes.....
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Post by Westy on Oct 25, 2016 14:54:40 GMT -8
I'm a WM and FF Fan. I still use vests on day hikes or overnighters. For longer outings I switched to a down jacket like WM Quick Flash. The reasoning was that the down jacket became useful on cold mornings and as a bomber middle layer in miserable, cold, windy and wet weather. If slightly chilly, used my Gore-Tex outer shell, without the down jacket and sometimes added a wool top base layer. The down jacket became an insurance policy and nice after dinner and early AM breaking camp.
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Post by johntpenca on Oct 26, 2016 11:48:45 GMT -8
I still use vests on day hikes or overnighters. For longer outings I switched to a down jacket like WM Quick Flash. I still like vests. Have an old Marmot vest with lots of loft which keeps me warm under a Rab shell. I tend to buy jackets and shells on the large side as I'm big on layering. The athletic cut promoted these days does not work for me. Montbell also makes some nice gear. I have one of their down jackets which is similar to the WM Flash. If I''m going to carry a down jacket I want a hood. It doesn't add a whole lot of weight and just seems more efficient for me. Just my preference.
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Westy
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Post by Westy on Oct 26, 2016 15:41:44 GMT -8
Montbell also makes some nice gear. Good Point. My daughter uses a Montbell down jacket and is very satisfied with it. Rangersven has lots of great options.
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Post by Lamebeaver on Oct 27, 2016 7:08:48 GMT -8
Lamebeaver, I was thinking of Big Agnes, too. Love their roominess and sleeping system. Still don't think their quality is as good as WM, though. Plus, their temperature ratings don't seem to be true. Do you think they are? They have good prices on their 600/650-fill; however, their 850-fill are heavier (weight-wise) and nearly as expensive as WM. I think you're right on that count. I have a pair of Expedition 15s (synthetic), and they're good down to about 25 or so. I also made a set of fleece sleeves that I can slip over the insulated air core pads, which provides a little extra warmth in cold weather. Since the BA bags are not insulated on the bottom, they're relatively light, but they're a lot bulkier than a down bag. I have a TNF down bag, that's very warm.....until you slip off the pad in the middle of the night.
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