grace
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Post by grace on Oct 17, 2016 8:12:46 GMT -8
I've done better in trail runners than my boots (I love the flexibility and ability to articulate the foot) but I recently tried on the Vasque Breeze 2.0, and may try them out. Still really flexible, but I like idea of a little added ankle protection in unstable terrain.
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Post by twisted on Oct 18, 2016 11:27:21 GMT -8
I just bought a pair of Altra Loan peak 3.0 mids. Iam gonna be trying them out today on a short hike. I did start another thread of a more in depth description of them on my 1st day with them.
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trailguru
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Post by trailguru on Oct 18, 2016 11:29:56 GMT -8
I've done straight up mountaineering with crampons wearing trail runners. They work just fine though their durability is undoubtedly much inferior to a good quality pair of boots. But the added flexibility, less weight and nimbless still makes it worth it in my book
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markskor
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Post by markskor on Oct 18, 2016 12:03:52 GMT -8
This makes no sense RE footwear. Translation follows -
"But the added Chip One is a global supplier of electronic components basedada in Germany. Components Assets, Liabilities, and peripherals that go on a circuit board including connectors. We represent more than 90 lines of Franchises and my signature at the end of this email (where it says Franchised Linecard and QC) has this complete list. And if it is something that we do not carry we have excellent resources to get them thanks to our global presence (with stocks in Germany, Dubai, in the United States and Asia). This can help you reduce costs and our own quality control guarante you that anything that comes out of our warehouses will pass the quality tests.
We also help our customers avoid situations Line Down (shutdowns) when they have shortages, have problems in lead time (production period) or are simply looking for an outdated part.
and of course, we are registered with the ISO 9001: 2008 and ERAI and are affiliated members of several organizations that certify quality. We hope to have a business opportunity with you when you release the Radar , less weight and nimbless still makes it worth it in my book."
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Post by CompassRds on Oct 18, 2016 12:52:32 GMT -8
I think someone hit paste instead of cut...
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Post by CompassRds on Oct 18, 2016 13:14:18 GMT -8
Seriously though, I have also done some (Class 3 and under) 14ers (Lindsey Blanca and Ellingwood Challenger/Kit Carson) in a couple pairs of New Balance Leadvilles and I agree that the flexibility makes up for a lot in some places, though durability is definitely and issue and weight savings was offset by having to carry a back-up pair of shoes for when the runners inevitably got eaten by scree, talus, and sharp edges.
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Post by CompassRds on Oct 18, 2016 13:20:38 GMT -8
Also, more for Midwest dirt trails/light scrambling, and since others brought up hiking in sandals I have actually been doing a lot of hiking in FiveFingers Treksports and heavy weight Injini socks for about 6 years now, 3 season (above 50 and dry forecast). Though I wouldn't recommend it due to occasional foot bruising (and even more toenail loss) when I've missed rocks/roots on the trail.
...I guess shoes are the place I am a gram-counter.
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driftwoody
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Post by driftwoody on Oct 18, 2016 13:28:26 GMT -8
To me, durability is an important factor only if it causes the shoe to fail on the trail. Low-cut non-goretex trail runners cost less than longer lasting beefier boots, so the financial impact might be close to a wash. Buy new shoes as the runners start to wear out, and wear the old ones on easier local hikes where you won't be in trouble if they start to fall apart.
I definitely will get a pair of trail runners and test them to see how they work for me in wet and rugged conditions with a pack -- without committing to a big multi-day trek until I'm confident I can get by without sturdier boots.
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Post by johntpenca on Oct 18, 2016 14:47:27 GMT -8
I definitely will get a pair of trail runners and test them to see how they work for me in wet and rugged conditions with a pack -- without committing to a big multi-day trek until I'm confident I can get by without sturdier boots. Good strategy. Certainly trail runners will not hold up as long as full on boots, but I've never had a pair fail catastrophically. I see no need for a backup pair of shoes/boots. Most trail runners will last around 500 miles. If you are used to boots, it may take a while to get used to trail runners. The main thing is to focus more on foot placement, which is actually a good thing. Try them and see what you think of them.
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Post by johntpenca on Oct 18, 2016 14:57:00 GMT -8
weight savings was offset by having to carry a back-up pair of shoes for when the runners inevitably got eaten by scree, talus, and sharp edges. Not sure I understand this. I've done numerous class 3-4 routes in the sierra and CO without having my runners eaten by scree or talus. Don't mean to be disparaging, but just curios o as how they got eaten up. Never carried a spare pair of shoes. Please explain?
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Post by ukpacker on Oct 18, 2016 15:19:50 GMT -8
I have backpacked for decades in all sorts of footwear, trail shoes, leather boots, fabric boots, rubber boots, sandals and even plastic Crocs which were surprisingly ok when combined with neoprene socks but leather boots have definitely caused me more problems than anything else. I think that for cross country hiking and uneven trails good plastic heel cups well attached to the shoe's sole keep the shoe moving in the same direction as the foot which is what is really required especially in rough terrain. On good trails sandals and even plastic Crocs are fine but the skin needs protecting from being rubbed off hence the neoprene socks. I think the whole ankle support thing is just a myth, but ask a medical professional. In wet terrain Seal Skins and trail shoes seem to work fine ,at least for a couple of weeks after which they start leaking.
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Post by tigger on Oct 18, 2016 15:29:21 GMT -8
A Chip One é uma fornecedora global de componentes eletrônicos basedada na Alemanhã. Os componentes Ativos, Passivos, e Periféricos que vão numa placa de circuito incluindo os conectores. Representamos mais de 90 linhas de Franquias e minha assinatura no final deste email (onde diz Franchised Linecard e QC) tem essa lista completa. E se for algo que a gente não carrega nós temos excelentes recursos para obte-lás graças a nossa presença global (com estoques na Alemanhã, Dubai, nos Estados Unidos e Asia). Isso pode te ajudar na redução de custos e o nosso próprio controle de qualidade te guarante que qualquer coisa que sai dos nossos armazéns vai passar os testes de qualidade. Também ajudamos os nossos clientes a evitarem situações de Line Down (Paralisações) quando tiverem escassezes, tiverem problemas no lead time (Prazo de Produção) ou se estiverem simplesmente procurando uma parte ultrapassada. E lógico, somos registrados com o ISO 9001:2008 e ERAI e somos membros afiliados de várias organizações que se certificam de qualidade. Esperamos ter uma oportunidade de negócio com vocês quando liberarem o Radar My thoughts exactly...
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driftwoody
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Post by driftwoody on Oct 18, 2016 16:11:39 GMT -8
I see no need for a backup pair of shoes/boots. I wouldn't carry a backup pair, but as the old shoes start nearing the end of their lifecycle I would buy a new pair for more arduous treks and continue to use the old shoes until they wear out -- on trails where deteriorating uppers and diminished soles are not as much of a factor.
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Post by georgeofthej on Oct 18, 2016 19:28:19 GMT -8
I wore ankle high Vasque hiking boots to Lassen NP last August for two reasons. First was to better keep gravel and sand out (guess I could try gaiters for that some day). But second--and more importantly--the big toe on one foot jams against the front of my sneaker when I hike downhill, but the extra height of the boot keeps this from happening.
Normally I've just been wearing Sketchers sneakers for backpacking the past several years.
Now, with the hiking boots I want some kind of camp shoe, because I want to get out of the boots when reaching camp. With the sneakers I'm comfortable wearing them both on the trail and as camp shoes. But since I wore the boots to Lassen, I wanted a light and packable camp shoe to complement them. I brought slippers as an experiment. The slippers worked well: they didn't get pine needles and other junk stuck to the sides and they made walking around camp comfortable. The slippers did not work well walking on gravel because the soles were too flimsy and it felt almost as bad as being barefoot
---George
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Post by johntpenca on Oct 18, 2016 20:55:58 GMT -8
I wouldn't carry a backup pair, but as the old shoes start nearing the end of their lifecycle I would buy a new pair for more arduous treks and continue to use the old shoes until they wear out -- on trails where deteriorating uppers and diminished soles are not as much of a factor. Most long distance hikers (AT. PCT and CDT) have spare shoes forwarded to them as their shoes wear out. Can't say I've done a long trail, but from what I've read feet tend to change in the long haul. What fits you at the beginning of a trail may not work later.
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