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Post by gabby on Sept 20, 2016 14:51:46 GMT -8
I updated 2 of my 'puters to Win10 just before the end of July (nothing like waiting until the last moment).
This old Core 2 Quad Q6600 machine has not been happy under Win10:
1) Moving the mouse moves the screen cursor at the same rate as the mouse about 1/3 of the time.
2) Browsers are slow to agonizingly slow.
3) After nearly 2 months, I still have trouble navigating my hard disk. MS wants you to go here, even when you're mostly interested in going over there - 75% - 80% of the time.
4) Win 10 is slow, slow, slow. Sometimes it is so slow I go to "web cruising" on my iPhone or iPad.
Now I'm back on Win7 today after switching the cables in the system. (I copied the Win7 disk and updated the copy, so the old Win7 disk is still in the machine.)
Performance issues are completely gone.
1) The mouse cursor NEVER fails to track the speed of the actual mouse movements, even when something else is running.
2) Browsers are crisp and responsive.
3) Everything is right where I expect it to be. I can even tell the "File Explorer" to go to my favorite "landing place" by adding arguments to an icon's properties. I can even have specific, dedicated icons on the desktop to go where I want. (Yeah, you can add "Quick Access"/"Favorites" to Win10 as well, but MS doesn't go, even to the "Quick Access" menu, by default. I could never figure out how to mimic this basic function that is common to Win7.
Okay, for those of you who've tried Win10, what do you think? Do you have newer, faster machines that don't have some of the problems I've had with my "old clunker" Dell?
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Post by autumnmist on Sept 20, 2016 14:59:48 GMT -8
Gabby, I would another category to the 5 listed, a very blunt but in my opinion to the point assessment. WIN 10 sucks. Big time. I was thinking the other day MS operating systems have gone downhill beginning with WIN 8.
Something I realized today - WIN voluntarily and w/o my permission changes the start-up desktop photos. The photos are pleasing, but they reflect my browsing. Most are scenes similar to those I would find in the photos here. A few days ago I was browsing the nature forum. Today the desktop photo is a bird. Coincidence? I think not.
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Post by tigger on Sept 20, 2016 16:04:57 GMT -8
As an IT professional, I have dealt with hundreds of systems on Windows 10. On systems that come with Windows 10, I've really not had any issues. However, I've had roughly 5-10% with a variety of severity of issues going from annoying to requiring a complete reinstall. It has been bad enough that I've recommended that clients don't upgrade if they haven't already. I've had to reinstall operating systems more times since Windows 10 than I have in my entire 27 year career.
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Post by RumiDude on Sept 20, 2016 18:07:07 GMT -8
As a retired IT professional, my personal experience was the upgrade went seamlessly. The OS loads waaaaaaaaaay faster than ANY previous Windows OS. Almost everything is improved in my experience. YMMV
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Post by amaruq on Sept 21, 2016 4:30:58 GMT -8
WIN voluntarily and w/o my permission changes the start-up desktop photos. The photos are pleasing, but they reflect my browsing. ...oh no... My browsing? My personal computer just got a whole lot more... personal. :-P |
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Post by autumnmist on Sept 21, 2016 6:26:32 GMT -8
My personal computer just got a whole lot more... personal. I felt that way too. It's very unsettling. I'm going to test it by going to sites I don't normally visit, but enjoy, such as dance and opera sites. If I see a photo from a ballet or opera when I boot up, I'll know that the tracking is being used to "provide" targeted photos. I guess I won't be doing as much medical research either. I don't want to see an x-ray or ad for some medicine when I boot up. |
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Post by walkswithblackflies on Sept 21, 2016 7:50:40 GMT -8
Black Friday 2015 I purchased a laptop that came with Windows 10. No issues other than the typical "learning a new system" thingys. I did notice how seamlessly and easy it is to install remote devices... printers, ChromeCast stick, Garmin watch, etc.
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Post by davesenesac on Sept 21, 2016 8:06:36 GMT -8
Not much experience with Windows 10 yet. As a veteran of upgrading computers since earliest days but only familiar with administration processes at an advanced user level over the last 15 years, I've learned the wisdom of if it works, don't fix it. The primary problem with upgrading OS's on computers with lots of applications loaded is not that the OS has issues but rather that applications are not always compatible or fully functional even if someone tweaked drivers to supposedly make such so. In this era computers, myriad applications, and endless utterly nauseatingly bewildering standards have become so complex and interrelated that OS upgrades are certain to cause PAIN.
At my workplace our IT dept runs Windows 7 Pro on all our computers.
At home interconnected on a wireless Ethernet I have:
A cheap Chromebook running Chrome.
An old HP running Windows Vista haha. That is where I've been doing most of my work including all my photo processing for the last decade. I have had a Windows 8 upgrade for it for a few years now but have let it lie.
A Dell XPS 9550 laptop with a 4k 15.6" screen running Windows 10 for a few months now and have loaded in most of my applications. So far no problems however I tend to still use the HP machine for doing serious work because as an old computer person I find touchpads annoying and much less functional than a mouse. In any case Windows 10 has a lot of features that are improved. I'm always annoyed dealing with controls and tools in OS and application upgrades that have changed especially ones that have been renamed and moved to different places that then require searching on the web to find out where they have been moved to. Much like what drove advanced users mad a few years back at changes in Windows Office to the ribbon from menu driven controls.
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Post by gabby on Sept 21, 2016 8:19:57 GMT -8
I'm always annoyed dealing with controls and tools in OS and application upgrades that have changed especially ones that have been renamed and moved to different places that then require searching on the web to find out where they have been moved to. Much like what drove advanced users mad a few years back at changes in Windows Office to the ribbon from menu driven controls. As an ex user interface programmer, this drives me crazy. From an old book from long, long ago, one of the biggest no-nos was "Don't change the interface unless you must to add a feature!" You know: make it look nicer, make it faster, but keep functional stuff where it is - most people want to do work with computers, not play with them. Based on what I see these days, I guess this changed. |
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Post by speacock on Sept 21, 2016 8:38:43 GMT -8
I've installed W10 on 6 computers (friends - still, etc) without a hitch and a bit of a problem on an update when they lost track that I'd changed out mother boards at beginning of year. They could not validate I had a good copy of W8. Easy fix.
A laptop had a problem that the pad AND mouse were jockeying for moving the cursor. Disabled the mouse pad in favor of wireless mouse.
As an aside, I made a major contribution to my sanity and modified my computers by popping the CAPS LOCK keycap off. I turn caps on or off with the end of a pencil - yes, I still use those too. The caps function should be up along the top row of keys away from touch typing fingers.
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Post by gabby on Sept 21, 2016 10:58:25 GMT -8
I'm beginning to think, based on these comments, that I'm going to have to "tune" the installation a bit. I don't really want to reinstall fresh, since I actually use my computer for various things which requires software to be installed. All that would need to be re-installed as well. When you have something like a Unix emulation system installed on Windows with multiple associated compilers/interpreters, you don't really want to go through that process again. (Anyway, I don't.)
I also updated one of my 3 laptops, but I haven't actually used it a lot. It's a core i5, so maybe it would respond more adequately to the new load of MS stuff. That leaves one laptop with XP (won't change because of software tools I would lose if I did upgrade it) and another with Win7. Those were both old enough I didn't think they'd be Win10-capable.
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Post by autumnmist on Sept 21, 2016 18:36:26 GMT -8
I'm always annoyed dealing with controls and tools in OS and application upgrades that have changed especially ones that have been renamed and moved to different places that then require searching on the web to find out where they have been moved to. Much like what drove advanced users mad a few years back at changes in Windows Office to the ribbon from menu driven controls. This is one of my complaints as well, but more as it applies to various functions of the Office programs. More time than necessary is spent figuring out how to accomplish certain functions. But the ribbon vs. menu is one of the worst and most impractical changes yet. It requires more left to right and back eye movement, the categorization of various functions doesn't reflect common sense, and the help functions are often too choice driven but lacking simplicity. While I'm griping, one of the things I really hate are the wider screens. Word processing at any level is a lot easier when the screen is higher rather than wider, which requires far too much movement of the eyes from side to side, at least for eyes that are 7 decades old. Although I'm not working for pay, if I was, I would find it difficult to work on long (60 - 70 pages) documents as I used to. And unless I'm missing something, Word still doesn't have a "reveal codes" function as WordPerfect does. |
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Post by franco on Sept 21, 2016 18:47:45 GMT -8
I was on XP till just over a year ago.
Then I bought a new computer , came with Windows 7 but set to the XP look.
A few months ago after having rejected the install Windows 10 message for weeks, switching the PC on I had the message about Widows 10 installing itself..
(I must have clicked in the wrong spot at some stage)
Anyway it all went smoothly and everything worked except that the Web cam was set to use the wrong mike input.
It is still working well for me.
The same for my wife, she migrated from 8 to 10.
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Post by swimswithtrout on Sept 21, 2016 19:50:44 GMT -8
I'm not an IT tech, but I've never bought an off the shelf computer, even back to the Win 95 days. I've always hand-built all of my own rigs from ground up, motherboard/CPU/RAM/ "mass storage device", etc.,etc., and then the OS.
I was one of the first users to get the Win 10 "update" and it went flawlessly. The OS works fine and is pretty "zippy".
My one and only MAJOR gripe, is that Win 10 now automatically downloads all updates. I liked the flexibility of picking the updates that "I" think I need.
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Post by Coolkat on Sept 22, 2016 4:53:50 GMT -8
A few days ago I was browsing the nature forum. Today the desktop photo is a bird. Coincidence? I think not. This is exactly why I'll be switching to a flavor of linux when my Windows 7 computers die. I suppose this might be a matter of opinion but the new gui is not easier navigate. |
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