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Post by Deleted on Sept 8, 2016 10:37:53 GMT -8
Hi my name is Adam , I live in the U.K and have wanted for the longest time to travel to the states and hike the john muir trail. I am aware depending on fitness levels (miles per day ) it can take anywhere from 3 days to over a month to complete . I am looking at about 3 weeks hopefully to complete the hike. I would like to hear from anyone who has completed the hike or has any knowledge about my hike as I don't know too much to be honest! I will get my permits and a map beforehand , but as for the gear do you think its best to rent or buy everything when I set down in Los Angeles or buy here in u.k and take over? Any advice on what 1 man tent and gear would be very much appreciated . thanks in advance have a good day
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Post by zeke on Sept 8, 2016 10:48:56 GMT -8
The lightest you can afford. Don't forget to rent the bear canister somewhere along the way before you set out. Everything that has an aroma must be in a canister, so TP, soap, toothpaste, etc... 200+ miles, so 3 weeks is a good allowance, depending on your own fitness level. I am not sure how I would prepare for an outing like this if I did not have most of the gear already. Too many days spent acquiring gear, then adjusting to it on the go. Sounds like a way to meet difficulties. Perhaps buying the gear there and wild camping in Scotland would prepare you some. At least that way you'd know what worked for you already.
Ther is an excellent thread at the top of this subject. Peruse it at your leisure.
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Post by paula53 on Sept 8, 2016 10:49:08 GMT -8
REI rents equipment, they have stores in LA. Don't forget the bear cannister. Permits can be hard to get. The days are getting shorter and colder; a good light is essential. Have fun.
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Post by johntpenca on Sept 8, 2016 11:28:39 GMT -8
When are you planning to do it? That will be a big factor with regard to gear. What is your current experience level? Also, check out trailjournals.com www.trailjournals.com/journals/john_muir_trail/also: www.pcta.org/discover-the-trail/john-muir-trail/The kit REI rents is generally pretty heavy. Plus their sales people will upsell the crap out of you until you are broke and your pack weighs 50 lbs (20+ kg). I recommend you get the gear while you are still in the UK. What do you currently own? Under no circumstances would I rent a sleeping bag; nasty business. There are shops in Lone Pine, Bishop and Mammoth to pick up miscellaneous small ticket items (fuel, toiletries, bug repellent, groceries, etc.) as well as big ticket items if needed. edit: My recommendation is to fly into Ontario airport rather than LAX unless you have business/personal things going on in LA. Ontario will cut out a lot of time and traffic. Oh, by the way, welcome to the bpbasecamp forum. Lots of experienced folk here.
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Post by johntpenca on Sept 8, 2016 12:24:57 GMT -8
With regard to tents, not sure what is available in the UK, but some of the preferred lightweight suppliers here are tarptent, six moons design, lightheart gear, and others that escape my mind right now. Perhaps others will chime in. If you don't already have a sleeping bag, price point is a factor. There is a trend here to using down quilts as opposed to full on sleeping bags. Not a fan myself, but they are marginally lighter if you have a good sleeping pad. Enlightened Equipment is a good one to look at. www.enlightenedequipment.com/quilts/Cheers!
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Post by johntpenca on Sept 8, 2016 12:33:37 GMT -8
Post up more as you get your plan dialed in. Time of year, going north to south or south to north, number of people, etc.
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Post by zeke on Sept 8, 2016 13:13:16 GMT -8
If I was tackling JMT North to South, I might even fly into Reno.
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Post by johntpenca on Sept 8, 2016 15:05:56 GMT -8
Zeke-.
Or maybe Vegas? Have not done that approach myself but know it is an alternative. My experience with Brits is they love the desert drives.
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Post by zeke on Sept 8, 2016 15:09:31 GMT -8
Vegas is a bit further, but still doable in a short day. Reno has bus service to Tuolumne, IIRC.
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Post by johntpenca on Sept 8, 2016 15:39:04 GMT -8
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Good point. To be honest I'm not that familiar with the east side bus service or YARTS.
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Post by almostthere on Sept 8, 2016 18:30:08 GMT -8
THere are a number of REI in California that no longer rent sleeping gear. I will recommend renting a Wild Ideas Bearikade directly from them, and renting from an online rental agency such as lowergear.com, as playing games with rental gear is the last thing you need to do.
Also, three weeks is a much, much more reasonable amount of time than one week, especially if you can actually manage four weeks. Fly in to San Francisco and get Amtrak up to Merced, YARTS into the park, and take advantage of the fact that people arriving by bus can stay in a backpacker camp without a permit. (This is in the Superintendent's Compendium available in PDF on the official Yosemite website -- print a copy of the page and bring it to educate the ignoramus workers in the park, they don't all know the rules.) That fourth week can be travel time, and tourist time -- any time not spent on public transportation, you can hang out in Yosemite valley being a tourist, or in Tuolumne Meadows acclimating to elevation.
Also don't believe a word anyone tells you about bear risks -- bear spray is illegal here and you won't need it. There are other ways to deal with bears. Read all about that on the official Yosemite bear safety web page.
If you intend to do Half Dome that is a permit you request in addition to the JMT permit, which you indicate on the form - don't bother with the lottery, that is for day hikers. And there are plenty of wonders out there if you don't get it -- trust me, you can replicate the experience of watching people take selfies anywhere in the park. No need to fuss with idiots on the cables causing traffic jams to do it. There are nicer peaks to be on that won't require the hassle.
Aim for August - Early September and you won't need to worry as much about mosquitoes giving you West Nile.
Later than mid September will cause transportation issues as the shuttle/bus schedules diminish radically past that date.
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Post by rebeccad on Sept 8, 2016 19:58:24 GMT -8
Vegas is a bit further, but still doable in a short day. Reno has bus service to Tuolumne, IIRC. I'd recommend one or the other of these, as LAX forces you to drive clear across the greater (awfuller) LA area, and flights in and out of Ontario, at least from SF, are 2-3 times more than LAX. Vegas is often quite cheap. I agree with those advising to get the gear over there and practice wherever you can, starting with your back yard, so that you are familiar with it all before you start on the JMT.
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