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Post by graywolf on Aug 24, 2016 15:43:28 GMT -8
4 weeks ago today I went to the Doctor for what I thought was double vision due to plugged ear canals. It turns out I had a blood clot in my brain and had surgery to have it removed. After a minor setback, all my CT scans have been good and the Surgeon cleared me to go home today. To tell the truth I'm a little freaked out. Not spiritually, I'm a devout Zen Buddhist, and am not looking for sympathy. It has more to do with being a father and a grandfather. I don't want to worry my family needlessly. I have always done 90% of my hiking and backpackng solo but when I asked the Doctor how soon I could resume he said I should forget about going hiking alone. I realize this is an unfair question but does anyone have experience along a similar situation? Should I consider my solo days over? Any advice would be greatly appreciated and of course with the stipulation that all situations are unique. I just want to get the opinions of the people I trust the most in this area, the hiking/backpacking community. Thank you,
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Post by reuben on Aug 24, 2016 15:57:53 GMT -8
Well, what does your doctor know about backpacking? A lot? Practially nothing? Do you think he's being overly cautious? What if you took a PLB/SPOT or similar device, and maybe stayed closer to home/cities/rescue resources?
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Post by rebeccad on Aug 24, 2016 16:07:07 GMT -8
Well, what does your doctor know about backpacking? A lot? Practially nothing? Do you think he's being overly cautious? What if you took a PLB/SPOT or similar device, and maybe stayed closer to home/cities/rescue resources? I agree. Look at all the options. Ask the doctor what exactly could happen--and is it anything that would be helped by having a companion? I mean, if immediate medical care is required, then a partner won't be able to do much if you are 4 days in. I do know that as a spouse I, for one, would worry, and a PLB/SPOT would go a long way to easing those worries.
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Post by graywolf on Aug 24, 2016 16:11:46 GMT -8
Thank you reuben. I recently purchased and registered a PLB a couple of months ago. My impression of the Doctor was that he was against solo hiking/backpacking regardless of the circumstances. You have also made me realize that I need to be more diligent about giving an itinerary to a close family member or friend and then following it. Something I have very rarely done in the past.
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Post by reuben on Aug 24, 2016 16:27:41 GMT -8
When kayaking, I should (but admittedly do not) provide my wife or someone with what is called a "float plan" - time/place in, time/place out, and other info like kayak make/model/color, possible stops, etc. Have various safety gear (light, PFD, compass, VHF radio/PLB/SPOT, etc.) Obviously some of this depends on the length, location, and expected conditions of the trip.
Doing something like that may bring peace of mind to both you and your family. There's only so much you can do. The rest is just worrying.
Your doctor may not have a reasonable grasp of the skills and experience that you already have. Add that to a few extra precautions like a PLB, an itinerary.
I have a Delorme product which allows others to track my location as well as send and receive short twitter-type messages. So if I'm caught in a storm or just happy where I am I can send a message like "going to stay here for a few days". That way if they don't see me move on the map they know I'm OK and just enjoying that particular location.
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Post by RumiDude on Aug 24, 2016 16:52:21 GMT -8
Well, I guess it is time for me to come clean and offer some observations about health changes that might or might not effect your solo BPing pursuits.
A few years back I permanently lost significant portions of my vision due to glaucoma. As of almost three years now, I have been legally blind. I am not white cane blind, but legally blind, which is a technical categorization of vision loss. You can look it up to get the specifics. Though I am aware of the loss of vision on one level, it often feels as if I see just fine. It is the process of slowly losing vision which causes the brain to think that what it perceives now is "full" vision. As my eye doctor tells me, I see much less than what I think I see.
My changes in vision are that for all intents and purposes I have no vision in my left eye and my "good" vision in the right eye is reduced to less than 20*. Thus without stereo vision, I cannot judge distances well. Going down hill is often difficult because I can't see texture. I forget that I can't see anything on my left because it feels like I see a full field. Dim light simply turns to black for me and so even with the help of a very bright headlamp I have difficulty getting around in the outdoors after sunset. Bright sunlight overwhelms me and makes it difficult to see as well. These changes have changed how I hike and backpack.
I still solo, but I have to remind myself constantly to be careful. I have to concentrate and often spend time on the trail just looking down. I have to stop to view the landscape. I have to constantly remind myself to look left. I have to be careful crossing logs, going down scree or boulder slopes, crossing streams, etc. Snow travel is difficult because the reflection of light off the snow blinds me and I can't see the texture of the surface. I do much less off-trail hiking now, and when I do go off-trail I am extremely cautious.
This past year in January and February I was forced to confront my limitations in Thailand and discovered I am able to do more than I thought I could. The issue for me is to find that zone which allows me to comfortably stretch myself without unduly endangering myself. That is an ongoing process which I doubt will never end. One of my dreams is to thru-hike the PCT and PNT. I may have to do them solo. Am I up to it? We shall see. I certainly do not want to become a subject of second guessing by having written a check my ass couldn't cash.
I realize my situation is different than yours, yet there are lessons to be learned from each other. I have resisted getting a PLB or SPOT Messenger because I don't want to lose that feeling of being out there on my own. Maybe it's time I give that up. Anyway, I hope what I have written here helps you. I hope you feel free to ask me questions, though I may not have a good answer.
Best of luck in all your decision making on this Take care.
Rumi~the blind~Dude
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Post by trinity on Aug 24, 2016 18:00:13 GMT -8
Per your request, no sympathy, but I am very sorry to learn this, and I wish you the very best. Though I do not have experience with this specific issue, we all have experience with those who are concerned about us going out solo who have no way of understanding why we need to do so, so in a way we all deal with this issue. Only you can decide how important solo hiking is to you, and how to balance this against the actual risk, and the concerns of your family. I know that you love your family, and do not wish to cause them worry or anxiety on your behalf. But it is also true that, for many of us, losing the ability to go into the woods on our own would be akin to ceasing to live. If you fall into this category, then in my opinion you should have some conversations with your loved ones, trust in their love for you, and then go on living until your life comes to an end.
I don't know the specifics of your health issues, but I am reminded of an elderly woman I used to know who was in very poor health who had never been to the ocean. She had major heart disease, but she had planned a trip to the coast to see the ocean for the first time, and asked her doctor whether or not she should risk the trip. Her doctor told her, "Honey, when your ticker decides to stop, it's not gonna matter if you're in the ocean or not. You go on and take your trip." I've never forgotten this lesson. Something is going to take each of us, eventually. You might just as well die in the wilderness that you love as plugged into a machine in a hospital room. Take care, graywolf, and be well.
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Post by Lamebeaver on Aug 24, 2016 18:23:25 GMT -8
I'm fortunate enough to have a doctor who's a serious climber. In your case, I wouldn't hesitate to get a second opinion. I do know someone who was in a similar situation once, and he decided that he would rather risk dying on a trip than prolong his life by sitting in a rocking chair on his porch.
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Post by Hungry Jack on Aug 24, 2016 18:39:45 GMT -8
Based on that doctors logic, you should not be alone ever. Not even in the bathroom. I don't get his logic. If you are more at risk for a brain clot, I am not sure backpacking solo puts you at significantly more risk. Immediate treatment for a stroke victim can make a difference, but strokes are unpredictable.
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Post by BigLoad on Aug 24, 2016 19:20:44 GMT -8
I figure that through your prior solo hiking, your family is well aware of the risks and accustomed to them. Perhaps the risks have changed, which I wouldn't guess without understanding the root cause of your condition. However, I don't get the impression that you've been told a recurrence is especially likely. In your position, I'd want to continue hiking solo, and I'd think my family could accept it without undue worry after enough discussion.
I don't want to go through the details here, but I had incident about five years ago that, although much less serious, still might have been fatal on a solo hike. It took three days to recover some ability to walk and nearly a month to walk again normally. I did my first business travel at five days and started dayhiking again at two weeks. People worried a bit, but not enough to give me second thoughts about my decision. They accept that being out in the wild is an important part of who I am, and I appreciate their forbearance.
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Post by RumiDude on Aug 24, 2016 19:22:31 GMT -8
I guess I should add, my eye doctor doesn't have worries about me going backpacking solo, or at least he has not expressed any. But he wants me to get a handicapped tag for our auto so that I will not have to walk far across parking lots. He has told me how many people like me trip over things in parking lots and severely injure themselves. So doctors give advice about what they know. My eye doctor has never backpacked or had a vision impaired patient severely injured backpacking so it doesn't come up on his radar. He has had patients with accidents in parking lots so that is why he emphasizes that.
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Post by graywolf on Aug 25, 2016 6:11:44 GMT -8
Thanks for all the encouragement everyone. I think I knew all along that I would continue to hike/backpack solo, just with additional precautions. My children are very tuned into and supportive of my hiking style and I think as long as I send them an itinerary with eta's for the more remote hikes and then text them when I return they will be okay. In fact, I am planning a short 4 - 6 mile hike this Sunday. It won't be solo since my brother wants to go but that is fine. I still hope to attend Pickle Gulch in Sep. but that will depend on my progress as far as living out of a tent. I think I could learn a lot from hiking with Rumi~the blind~Dude.
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Post by BlueBear on Aug 25, 2016 8:14:53 GMT -8
My advice on your question in the OP pretty much mirrors what others have said, so I'll just "second" it. I still hope to attend Pickle Gulch in Sep. but that will depend on my progress as far as living out of a tent. I'll be there. If there is anything at all that any of us could do to help, just let me know. (PM'ing me would work.) It'd be great to see you there. - Mike
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Post by jazzmom on Aug 25, 2016 9:52:47 GMT -8
My thoughts, FWIW. My mantra this year (which has seriously sucked) has been "solve the problem." I know it sounds obvious but, in many, if not most cases, it's not what we do because we get caught up in the logistics, politics, aesthetics, ego.
If your doctor's concern is that you can 'fall down and not be able to get up' and this is a real possibility, then get some sort of remote communication device, like SPOT or PLB. If you're concerned that this is a crutch of some sort then, again, focus on the objective, which is simply to be able to hike solo as soon as possible. Who knows? A year from now, your doctor's concern may have disappeared. Or changed. Maybe something will happen and you'll be really glad that you have that SPOT.
If your family hates the idea of you hiking by yourself, I think you owe them some consideration. I don't think they're asking you to change who you are forever. Is it really so horrible to just hike with a partner for a year and see how it goes? I don't see anyone forcing you to make a decision that limits you forever.
Acknowledging risks and formulating a mitigation doesn't need to limit you. It can just as easily empower you.
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