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Post by isawtman on Aug 21, 2016 5:32:02 GMT -8
Hi everyone
At the end of August I am flying in to Denver where my friend is picking me up.
We are planning to hike the CDT from Berthoud Pass, south of Winter Park to Grand Lake.
I have some questions.
Do I need some sort of permit?
What bear precautions should I have as far as a bear bag/vault, and bear spray, etc?
Is there any restrictions on alcohol stoves?
Do we camp only at designated campsites or can we low impact camp anywhere?
What shuttling options do we have? There is a place called Valley Taxi we are considering.
Anything else that I should be aware of?
Thanks, Todd
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Post by Westy on Aug 21, 2016 8:56:03 GMT -8
Did this in '08. We had a friend drop us off at Berthoud Pass and collect us in Grand Lake.
Not sure of your plans to get to Berthoud Pass from Denver Airport. The taxi service sounds best depending on how you get to Grand Lake or Winter Park. There is an Amtrak station at Winter Park that goes to Denver once a day. Timetables are not reliable, but the train shows up. There is also Greyhound Service to Idaho Springs both are an easy hitch to Berthoud Pass. Greyhound and Amtrak also serve Granby/Fraser. I would contact the Grand Lake Chamber of Commerce for a reliable shuttle service/limo provider.
How were you planning to depart and return to the Airport?
There were no restrictions, permits or designated campsites at that time. Since we were mobile and moving every day, we kept our food in the tent at night.
One technique we use in selecting the evening campsite is to exclude any spot with a campfire ring. This precaution is taken as generally campfire people throw trash and uneaten food in the campfire ring or adjacent area and are less likely to utilize Leave-No-Trace habits. Thus these campsites are a potential known source or wildlife supermarket for the local inhabitants. Typically, encounters with other animals such as marmots, chipmunks, rabbits, porcupines are more likely and common at these sites. I'd bring a 3mm cord and hang from a tree if your are concerned.
Without consulting my notes, King Lake after Railroad Pass was a beautiful area to camp near and has an eastern (sun) exposure in the AM.
Some Grand Lake Hints: Do not stay at the SunSet or Blue Bird Motels, ever! Recommend Blue Water Bakery.
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Post by Lamebeaver on Aug 21, 2016 12:27:29 GMT -8
Permit? No, unless you're planning on spending the night in the Indian Peaks wilderness (in August) You should not need bear spray. A bear vault or hanging your food would be strongly recommended. Keep a clean camp and you shouldn't have any problems. Alcohol stove should be fine, but three are many fire bans, depending on which county you are in. www.coemergency.com/p/fire-bans-danger.html. In that area, you can pretty much camp anywhere, but there are some rules on how close to a lake you can camp in some areas. If you are using a recent Trails Illustrated map (which I would highly recommend) these restricted areas will be shown on the map or listed. Sorry I can't offer advice about shuttles, but you might be able to get a ride from Winter Park to the top of the pass, and shouldn't have much difficulty getting from Grand Lake to Winter Park. |
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