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Post by amydiercon on Aug 3, 2016 0:51:41 GMT -8
I am always confused by talking with others. When I meet someone who I know but not familiar with, I keep silent. When he or she ask me something, I say "I don't know". because I always feel that we don't on the same "channel". But in others' eyes, it is not polite. So I like go out and have a solo trip. On the way or at some places, meet someone and talk with he or she, I feel so comfortable. I think this is an amazing point of going trip. Maybe I should change myself to adapt the surroundings.
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toejam
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Post by toejam on Aug 3, 2016 1:10:49 GMT -8
Think I know what you mean. I have a lot more to talk about with people who backpack - sometimes more than they want to talk about.
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Post by tipiwalter on Aug 3, 2016 5:30:04 GMT -8
I'm just the opposite. Everybody has a history, a beginning, a rise, a fall, the end. You just have to know how to ask the right questions.
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Post by desert dweller on Aug 3, 2016 5:44:04 GMT -8
One thing about talking to strangers is that, unlike with friends, they don't know your baggage and you don't know theirs. "I don't know you well enough to lie to you" is what I'll tell someone I've never had a conversation with.
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Post by daveb on Aug 3, 2016 6:35:33 GMT -8
I have noticed that I am allot more sociable when sharing a common interest. Last year while photographing the tetons from schwebacher's landing my conversation with one of the other photographers lead to a group conversation that ended up with smiles and swapped emails before departing the area. (of course as a true introvert I never followed up on those swapped emails.)
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Post by tigger on Aug 3, 2016 6:41:59 GMT -8
I love people and often talk with complete strangers. I talk to people everywhere in public. In the wilderness, we rarely run into people due to our trips mainly being off-trail. In the wilderness, I let people come up to me if they want to talk. I see it as an unwritten rule - Many people go into the wilderness to get away from others. I don't want to ruin that experience.
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Post by echo on Aug 3, 2016 6:57:34 GMT -8
I don't know that you really can change yourself a lot, or that you should try. I mean, yes you can get more comfortable talking to people, and it's a skill you can practice, but your core personality will be who you are. If you are more comfortable observing and letting others carry the bulk of the conversation unless you really have something to say, it isn't always rude, conversations need listeners too. Of course if they ask you something and you really do have an opinion, it would be nice to get comfortable sharing then.
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Post by BigLoad on Aug 3, 2016 7:22:04 GMT -8
Talking with others
It's fraught with peril, not to be undertaken lightly. I avoid if at all possible.
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Post by sarbar on Aug 4, 2016 8:35:37 GMT -8
There are 2 types of people, to varying degrees: Introverts Extroverts
Socially awkward usually falls under introverts.
Realize that most extroverts are simply naturally outgoing and friendly. They are attempting to make conversation. What you perceive as odd, is just them asking how the weather is. And a true social vampire extrovert finds your lack of talking to be a game, to see if they can lure you out, wether or not they know it.
So you have to ask who you are, and wether or not to simply avoid social interaction.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 4, 2016 9:33:16 GMT -8
I visit with others who seem inclined to welcome conversation. But if a simple "Hi, how you doing?" is all we exchange, I'm okay with that also. I rarely meet anyone in the backcountry because I go off-trail into unpopular areas — because I enjoy the solitude.
But it seems kind of silly to meet someone on a trail or at a trailhead and not even bother to exchange greetings. Heck, I'll even say hi to miscellaneous animals along the way. If they don't want to talk about the weather, that's fine, but saying a friendly word is simply a way to acknowledge their existence. Not saying anything is about as bad as saying, "Darn, I wish you were not here."
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Post by Westy on Aug 4, 2016 9:36:23 GMT -8
Not saying anything is about as bad as saying, "Darn, I wish you were not here." For a minimalist response I utilize a head nod as a form of recognition and hello.
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Post by Lamebeaver on Aug 4, 2016 9:55:30 GMT -8
Maybe I should change myself to adapt the surroundings. Don't change yourself, just be yourself.
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Post by vinovampire on Aug 4, 2016 11:55:21 GMT -8
I don't know.
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Post by Hungry Jack on Aug 4, 2016 13:18:32 GMT -8
Because I am stunningly good-looking, I tend to stop all conversation as people just stare. Luckily, I am a mind reader, so I can initiate a conversation by repeating what others are thinking and putting them at ease.
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Post by tipiwalter on Aug 5, 2016 4:14:36 GMT -8
I am always confused by talking with others. Amydiercon---You need to backpack and hike the TN mountains. I pulled a 21 day trip in January and didn't see a single human mammal. In February I pulled a 17 day trip and yet again didn't see a single bonobo human animal except for the guy I invited to join me in the middle of the trip. Last year I did a 24 day trip and only saw one group of backpackers on one day of the whole trip. Solitude is easy to find if you know where to look. Regarding conversation in the outdoors, well, I have a pet peeve against striking up conversations with Dayhikers. (Versus backpackers). They are a strange bunch to a guy out for the duration on a backpacking trip. And they can bring down the momentum of a trip for several reasons. ** They start their day in a car and end the same day in a car. They are Done In A Day types. This bums me out for some reason. ** While my brain housing unit is focused on tonight's camp and tomorrow's trek and the next day's destination and where I'll be in 10 days, they are clutching car keys and amped to pull their loop and get the hell out before dark. ** In my fetid opinion they are playing around the fringes of the Great Forest and for some reason cannot seem to stretch a simple dayhike into an overnighter. ** Area hiking clubs are notorious for pulling only dayhikes and never backpacking-overnighters. In fact they often like to start their hiking day at a restaurant for breakfast and end their day at another restaurant for dinner. None of this is a problem actually as long as I keep my distance and not try to open up lines of communication. The gleam of their eyes is on the parking lot where they left their cars and like I said this attitude sours my trip momentum. YMMV.
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