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Post by cweston on Jul 26, 2016 9:05:35 GMT -8
I do know that other things going on in the body can make symptoms worse (or altitude can make other issues worse? Does it matter?). The sickest I've ever been combined a way-too-fast ascent with a too-heavy pack as I was starting my period--something that can make me sick all on its own. Not a good combo. I can imagine. My wife has been having perimenopausal symptoms for about a decade. Her latest one is periods every 18-20 days or so, which has been going on for several months now. She doesn't become ill or anything, but I can see that it takes quite a bit of energy out of her having them so frequently.
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Post by rebeccad on Jul 26, 2016 9:14:21 GMT -8
I can see that it takes quite a bit of energy out of her having them so frequently. I trust she's seeing her gyn and keeping an eye on iron levels, with that kind of schedule. When I was in my teens and 20s, I often became really sick. Sadly, at the other end of the span, I've returned to many of those teen symptoms
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Post by cweston on Jul 26, 2016 9:34:29 GMT -8
I can see that it takes quite a bit of energy out of her having them so frequently. I trust she's seeing her gyn and keeping an eye on iron levels, with that kind of schedule. When I was in my teens and 20s, I often became really sick. Sadly, at the other end of the span, I've returned to many of those teen symptoms Yeah: a few things I've learned about menopause that I never knew before: the range of "normal symptoms" seems to be so wide as to include just about everything, and it really is kindof like reliving adolescence but in the opposite direction in some ways. I can't really imagine: getting older is hard enough for us men without having to deal with such a big transition. Her doctor said that the frequent periods is usually a sign of being near the end, but she's known women who dealt with that for a number of years before they stopped altogether.
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Post by reuben on Jul 26, 2016 9:39:03 GMT -8
the range of "normal symptoms" seems to be so wide as to include just about everything That's kind of the way it is with how people react to altitude as well. That's why the best info you'll find will be guidelines, not hard and fast rules. The standard deviation is a mile wide.
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Post by rebeccad on Jul 26, 2016 11:16:31 GMT -8
the range of "normal symptoms" seems to be so wide as to include just about everything That's kind of the way it is with how people react to altitude as well. That's why the best info you'll find will be guidelines, not hard and fast rules. The standard deviation is a mile wide. It's also why we end up seeing the MD more at this stage, if we're smart: otherwise, it could be very easy to dismiss symptoms of something else as just another sign of menopause. ETA: which, come to think of it, is a good reason to pay careful attention to symptoms of altitude sickness in any case. Sorting out what the source is may be hard, but addressing issues that might be serious is a good idea.
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Post by absarokanaut on Jul 26, 2016 15:21:33 GMT -8
How hot was it? Any fire smoke from the Zirkel in the morning calm?
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Post by cweston on Jul 26, 2016 16:57:31 GMT -8
How hot was it? Any fire smoke from the Zirkel in the morning calm? I don't recall seeing or smelling any smoke. I'd say it was a little above average temps--our nights, even at high elevation, were probably no colder than 42 or so. Our last day, mostly at 8,500 to 10,000, it was probably in the high 70s in the afternoon.
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Post by burntfoot on Aug 18, 2016 19:59:42 GMT -8
I'm sorry you had the altitude problem. It can hit anyone, even if it hasn't in the past.
I lived for a year in Ladakh in India at an altitude of 11,500 feet. And, while there, I went up peaks that were 19,000 and 20,000 feet. The 2 times I felt effects of altitude were the two times I forgot to hydrate enough. Thankfully, they were both day hikes, and I was better once I dropped altitude. After that, I used my altimeter and made sure I drank every 100 meters of altitude gain, even if not thirsty, and it helped.
Many people coming into Ladakh come in by bus. That is a huge mistake, as the bus campsite enroute is at 4700 meters altitude which is a good 3,500 feet higher than the city. That location is known locally as the "vomit Hilton." I know of people who lived in the city of Leh all their lives who had trouble with that trip. I favored the plane in, and still recommend that on the Lonely Planet forums with the caveat that people do hardly anything their first two days there.
As for trekking in Ladakh and Nepal, the advice usually given is not to sleep more than 1000 feet higher than the previous night's camp. In your case, maybe your first campsite might have been not as high. But, as you said, you had done similar trips in the past.
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