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Post by tomas on Jul 14, 2016 14:21:10 GMT -8
The kids have asked me to take them on a multi-day car camping trip. Basic idea is to find a campground, set up the tents, and then do dayhikes, fish, and just relax. I'm also looking at a multi-day hunting trip later this year in middle of nowhere WV.
What I need is a good cooler to store food. The ones I have aren't that great in the warmer temperatures of late summer early fall here in MD. I'd like to pack burgers, hot dogs, and a steak or three, so keeping everything cool/frozen is important.
Can anybody recommend a good cooler? I've seen the Yeti commercials and have heard they are terrific. But at $400 a pop they're a bit rich for me.
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Post by reuben on Jul 14, 2016 14:31:56 GMT -8
I've never used one backpacking/camping, but I have a couple of Polar Bear Coolers which work well. I have soft-sided ones, which you can put some of their (or another vendor's) cold packs in to keep things cold even longer. I've found that the flexible cold packs work best since they can conform to the contents. I have a couple from Polar Bear, and while they're OK for keeping stuff cool for day or so, I'm not real fond of them. YMMV. The cold packs I bought for my wife's back seem to work much better, but they're thicker and heavier - look for ColPac on amazon and elsewhere. We have a couple of traditional coolers as well as the Polar Bears, as well as cold packs. If you want to borrow them for a while we could meet somewhere. And yeah, Yetis are scary expensive. Maybe they're worth it, I dunno.
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Post by trinity on Jul 14, 2016 14:34:46 GMT -8
Yetis are ridiculously expensive, and they have managed to brand themselves as a lifestyle statement, which I find annoying. But their coolers are pretty amazing, and probably hard to beat. I left mine (one of the smaller sizes) in the car in the full sun in New Mexico during a backpacking trip and came back to cold beer 5 days later. For the application you're describing, a smaller Yeti (maybe a Roadie 20 at $250?) might be worth the investment. If you freeze your steaks, dogs, etc before loading them in the cooler, they'll probably keep an extra day or so.
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Post by zeke on Jul 14, 2016 15:05:39 GMT -8
Any of the first 3 of these will do. I have 2 of them I bought someplace else, since I don't shop WM. Keeps things frozen for a long time, especially if you limit the opening and closing. I use mine for 5 day car camping trips. Last month, West Marine had coolers on sale and I bought another wheeled one, but it is 100 qt.
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Post by High Sierra Fan on Jul 14, 2016 15:48:20 GMT -8
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Post by ogg on Jul 14, 2016 17:26:37 GMT -8
I took an Igloo Maxcold 50 qt. cooler on a 2 week roadtrip through the Intermountain West last summer and arrived back home with a good sized chunk (bigger than my fist) of the 10 lb ice block that I left home with. I was pretty diligent about keeping the cooler out of the sun as much as possible, though I did leave it in my car overnight while backpacking; quite a bit of ice had melted off by the the time I returned. I replenished with chipped ice three times but never had to resort to buying another block ice. I started out the trip with some of the meat frozen and made sure everything going into the cooler was well chilled. I've been pretty impressed with the cooler. I've found that starting out with a large block of ice or frozen 1L water bottles is key, then surround every thing with chipped/cubed ice after it is packed in. www.amazon.com/Igloo-MaxCold-Cooler-50-Quart-Blue/dp/B003KZSO7S
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Post by jazzmom on Jul 14, 2016 20:53:09 GMT -8
We have one of those Igloo MaxCold ones, too, but the "cube" style. I prefer that shape because a smaller footprint means less drowned food. My strategy is to always start with 2 frozen gallon water bottles (we always have them ready to go in our chest freezer.) Prefer that to buying block ice as the melted water stays in the container. Also found out on a week-long float trip that covering the top with a wet folded towel really increases the insulation. A full cooler also stays cooler.
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Post by talus on Jul 15, 2016 0:12:47 GMT -8
I think the trick is using block ice. It is getting pretty hard to find, but you can make your own using gallon milk jugs.
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Post by High Sierra Fan on Jul 15, 2016 10:17:13 GMT -8
Yes for personal cold but not frozen things I use milk jugs and some coffee cans filled with water that being smaller work well for day trip needs in my smaller cooler.
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Post by hangingtrekker on Jul 15, 2016 17:02:09 GMT -8
I think the trick is using block ice. It is getting pretty hard to find, but you can make your own using gallon milk jugs. If you have a lot of freezer space and can plan this for a week ahead of time... Line cardboard boxes with smaller trash bags (like 8-10gal). Be careful to not poke any holes in them. Fill the lined boxes with water and put in the freezer. I had a cooler last several days with a box like this. Though, as the ice melted it inevitably will find its way out of the bag somehow so don't use a box you care about, or if you can get the frozen bag out of the box before placing in the cooler that will work too. Keep in mind, depending on the insulating abilities of the cooler, what you put in it may stay a lot cooler on the side next to the ice. I used a small cooler for work at my last job with a flip up lid. I can't remember who makes it. My sandwiches would always have the moisture get sucked to the side facing the ice/cool packs and the bread on the outside dried out. Weird. Point is - with one big block of ice it concentrates the coolness. On a side note - my tackle shed at my cabins used to be an ice house back around the turn of the 20th century. The residents harvested ice in the winter from sawing chunks out of the lake. Then they stored them in the ice house buried in saw dust. We still have the old "refrigerator" that ran on the ice chunks. We store all our non-perishable foods, plastic ware, etc in there now. It makes a nice mice and bat-proof set of cabinets.
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Post by rebeccad on Jul 15, 2016 20:47:35 GMT -8
We use a basic Coleman ice chest for our trips. Starting out with a block of ice (I freeze a container that's maybe just over a gallon?), it usually lasts for 2-3 days on our trips (usually pretty hot weather). I do try to keep a duffel or so on top for extra insulation. Once that original ice is gone, I buy cube ice, even when block ice is available, not because it works as well--it doesn't--but because I got tired of the mess. We put the cubes in the container that used to be ice, so that our ice chest doesn't end up a sloppy wet mess. Whatever is in the bag from the store and doesn't fit in the container, goes in our water bottles (which may also go in the ice chest if there's room) or down peoples' necks.
In March, the spouse and I went to Death Valley, and did 5 nights without resupply. The ice lasted for about 4.5 of those, and things stayed cool enough even after that (with cool water) to be okay for stuff like yogurt and cheese. I think even the milk made it to the last morning. The big difference with where you are, though, is that it always cooled off at night, so we didn't have so much melting around the clock.
Start off with as much food frozen as possible, to increase the amount of "ice" you have, and to give it farther to go to spoiling temps. When we are all 4 traveling, we have to buy more food every 2-3 days anyway, so buying more ice isn't a burden.
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Post by zeke on Jul 16, 2016 15:05:08 GMT -8
Last night I cut the bottom off a half gallon milk jug to use it for a block of ice that will fit inside my small cooler I will take kayaking with me, to keep lunch cool and beers cold. Weighed the frozen block, and it appears I cut it almost exactly into a 1 qt container. Fits nicely into the cooler, and I can freeze up a couple in advance for days when we kayak consecutively. Returning home each night, of course. This wouldn't stand up to any overnight trip.
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Post by hikerchick395 on Jul 27, 2016 15:34:04 GMT -8
We bought another traditional steel belted Coleman ice chest (ironically, while in the Grand Canyon when it was 5* at the end of November. Ad came up on my phone...) Our old ones only leak because of user error...using knives or ice picks to break up ice (!)
We currently have it out in the RV in 105-107* temps. Keeping our beer supply cold. Ice lasts quite awhile...prefer the block ice, when available. In theses temps, the blocks are hard to find in town. We got a 25# block of ice and it lasted all week in Yosemite in May. But, I think that it would melt a lot faster in the hot Subaru.
Cabelas may make a knock-off somewhat comparable to the Yeti
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Post by rebeccad on Jul 28, 2016 9:55:52 GMT -8
Another note on the extreme ice chests: they tend to have a much larger exterior volume than interior, naturally enough. If your vehicle is large, this may not matter. For us, taking 4 people on road trips in a Prius, we opted for a more compact ice chest and more stops to buy ice. When we are down to 2 people and start doing more longer trips again, I may look at something that will keep supplies cold longer. Or not: dropping to 2 people but keeping the gear to a minimum means we don't have to use the pod, and that improves gas mileage by anywhere from 2-10 mpg, depending on speeds.
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Post by whistlepunk on Jul 29, 2016 18:37:57 GMT -8
A few tricks:
If you have the freezer space put the entire cooler, lid open, in the freezer for several days before the trip. The internal insulation will be below freezing to start out. Use dry ice to start out. Available at most supermarkets or butcher shops. Find a cardboard box slightly larger than the external dimensions of the cooler. Put the cooler inside the box, stuff newspaper, rags, old closed cell sleeping pads, polystyrene insulation, or whatever you can find in the space between the cooler and the box. Keep it in the shade. Keep a large white towel or other cloth over the top. A white or reflective silver car window shade works well also. You either have these extra things already or are available for a few bucks at Walmart. The cardboard, rags, etc you use can be disposed in the campground dumpster when you leave, as they tend to get tore up and wet. Recycle bin if possible. Freeze a couple of the milk jugs. They will be the same as frozen water jugs, with the added advantage of drinking it as it melts later in the week and the original fresh milk is gone.
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