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Post by greeny on Jun 18, 2016 18:26:22 GMT -8
Now that the complexities of permits and food allocation and water sanitation (really!) has been dealt with (thank all of you!) there's the remaining issue of how to effectively stage one vehicle and use the 395 / Mammoth transportation systems to get back to said staged vehicle.
It it possible (or even sane) to try and stage a vehicle (for two weeks) up in the Yosemite / Happy Isles area -- our "exit point"? OR -- would it be better to stage a vehicle in the Coldwater Creek Campground area, near the Duck Pass trailhead, then find some way to get down from Happy Isles?
How does one make the connection from Happy Isles back down to the Goldwater Creek Campground area (Duck Lake Trailhead)?
On one hand -- long-term parking in Yosemite -- expensive? On the other hand -- exhausted hikers arriving at odd hours want to climb into a vehicle!
Anyone done this before?
Stephen
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Post by High Sierra Fan on Jun 18, 2016 22:13:18 GMT -8
Long term parking in Yosemite: free. There's a long term lot (aka "backpacker's lot") east of Curry Village (between Curry Village and Happy Isles) The combination of YARTS and the Eastern Sierra Transit system can get you anywhere between Yosemite Valley (YARTS) and Mammoth and beyond along the 395 corridor all the way south past Lone Pine on the EST busses. What's the nearest town to Coldwater Creek Campground*? yarts.comwww.estransit.comETA: Is that this one? www.reserveamerica.com/camping/coldwater-campground/r/campgroundDetails.do?contractCode=NRSO&parkId=75150In which case YARTS will cover it all I expect. Plus the Mammoth system; www.mammothweb.com/transportation/shuttleroute.cfmThe long term parking I'm aware of is at the main Mammoth Lodge complex that's served by the Reds Meadow bus, YARTS and EST, probably the Mammoth system as well. ETA2: Because of some price haggling between the park service and the previous concessionaire the current name of Curry Village will be Half Dome Village.
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Post by greeny on Jun 19, 2016 0:39:45 GMT -8
HSF thanks! -- you really are a fan of the high Sierra! I'm curious how many years you've hiked this area?
Re the "backpacker's lot" -- is this the large lot right next to "Campground Rentals", or the smaller "trailhead parking" lot closer to the Happy Isles trailhead?
Either way, both of those lots seem like they are a short walk from the Happy Isles trailhead.
So the thing to do would be to park there, then take YARTS to Mammoth, and the Mammoth Lakes Basin Trolly to Lake Mary Marina, which is walking distance from the Duck Lake trailhead (well, it APPEARS to be walking distance, but what difference does it make if we're doing 80+ miles on a JMT segment?).
I have stayed at the Mammoth Lodge complex prior to entering southbound JMT at Red's Meadow. As I recall staging our car was a bit of a hassle -- I recall they acted like it was a novel idea to stage a vehicle there, and maybe wanted to charge a lot to do so.
The Mammoth Lodge was lovely, but at 9,000 feet I got hit with altitude sickness, because coming up 395 there's not a lot of places to stay to acclimate and we headed right up. Probably should've stayed near the Mammoth village center, which is 7,800. And since the Duck Lake trailhead is also around 9,000 feet, probably best to stop the night before in Mammoth village center.
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Post by zeke on Jun 19, 2016 6:42:45 GMT -8
The Mammoth Lakes trolley will let you off right at the parking lot. I got on it there when I exited Duck Pass a few years ago. Did not have to walk to the marina.
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Post by toejam on Jun 20, 2016 7:03:13 GMT -8
Last year my car stayed at Curry Village parking lot for weeks. It's a short bus ride from Happy Isles. I'd recommend parking there and catching buses to Duck Pass trailhead while your smell is still inoffensive.
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Post by High Sierra Fan on Jun 20, 2016 11:37:05 GMT -8
1970: I was lucky enough to fall in with the "wrong crowd" in college. Lol. Who introduced me to Humphrey's Basin
I've since backpacked a lot of other places: still come back to the Sierra....
The parking may be separate from the Lodge's lot: but still in that general location (it's been a few years since I've used it). The shuttles etc. all have parking there.
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Post by High Sierra Fan on Jun 20, 2016 11:41:17 GMT -8
Last year my car stayed at Curry Village parking lot for weeks. It's a short bus ride from Happy Isles. I'd recommend parking there and catching buses to Duck Pass trailhead while your smell is still inoffensive. And then you're walking TO your car which is something I always appreciate. The lot is maybe halfway along the road, south side? (They seem to move it) Front country tends to confuse me. The worst I've ever been turned around was one time, after two weeks off trail having a fine time, I was trying to find the }}#^<>€ lot along the Tuolumne Meadows Lodge Rd. Finally just had to say, screw it, and head north to the Tioga Road I knew presented a big feature across my path that I could work off of. I like to stay along the Tioga Rd in one if those no reserve campgrounds for a day or two even when I'm not using one of those trailheads. Cooler than low country and a bit of acclimation. Or Murpheys in Lee Vining. lol
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Post by greeny on Jun 20, 2016 22:35:46 GMT -8
This from the Yosemite National Park Service folks:
The Trailhead Parking area is the smaller lot and the Half Dome Village (formerly Curry Village) parking area is the one your refer to near the Campground Reservation Office. If the smaller lot is full you can park at Half Dome Village. Please ensure that you have no scented items in your vehicle and utilize the food storage lockers if necessary.
So it seems either can function to stage a vehicle. I wonder if there's a maximum time permitted to park (takes many people 3-4 weeks to hike the full JMT....)
How early will they allow a permit pickup in Mammoth? Is it the day before?
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Post by High Sierra Fan on Jun 20, 2016 23:01:27 GMT -8
Up to two days before for a reserved permit for Inyo. www.recreation.gov/marketing.do?goto=/permitgeneralrules_72203.html&backLink"Permit Pick up: There is a deadline confirming reserved permits. The group size must be confirmed online before the deadline or the reservation will be canceled and made available to other groups. Deadline for Day Use permit is Noon, one day before the entry date. Deadline for overnight permit is 10 a.m. on the entry date. Walk-in permits are only issued to visitors in person at an Inyo National Forest permit issuing station. Only the group leader or alternate leader may pick up the permit; the person picking up the permit must be going on the wilderness trip. Walk-in permits are issued after 11am one day before the entry date or any time on the entry date. Reserved permits can be picked up one or two days before the entry date or on the entry date. Open hours for issuing locations may change; check the Inyo National Forest web for current hours of operation before your trip." When I've stayed in Curry, most recently two years ago, they've issued me a window hang with my date of checkout for my car boldly written on it. I'd be a little leery of parking outside the backpacker's lot without clarifying that with someone. The implication was that windshield hang was checked.... It's been forever since I parked in the Valley, maybe the valley Wilderness Center gave me a similar hang along with my wilderness permit? That almost sounds familiar....
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Post by greno on Jun 21, 2016 19:00:30 GMT -8
sounds like a fun trip. We are going to try to do similar next June, but spend a couple of days around Lake Ediza before we head up to Tuolomne. We hike Tuolomne to Happy Isles last year and I want to connect the dots. I hope the kids get a little more enthusiastic.
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Post by High Sierra Fan on Jun 21, 2016 21:20:26 GMT -8
The Ritter Banner range has been the subject of some of the ranges mocmst classic mountain images. Ansel Adams did wonders up there over decades. Lots of inspirational images to gaze at and dream. A more current look is Walk the Sky.
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