markskor
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Post by markskor on Jun 5, 2016 14:37:00 GMT -8
Got to thinking about my past tents, thinking maybe I'd start a thread to ask what others had come to think of as their "perfect" tent? Years ago, 4 pounds was the norm. Now, sub two pound models are state of the art. Typically $300 price tags are pretty much standard...some though, up to $500.
We're talking "standard" tents, typical trail tents... One man tents/ not hammocks. Do you prefer a tent with one wall or two...hiking poles or dedicated tent poles...Hubs...How many poles? Side entrance... side door(s)?, one front door?...bath-tub floor or no floor at all? Bug screen, yes or no? Clips...sleeves?
Does wind resistance (how much it can hold up to?) matter? Snow load? How much square footage inside is the right amount? How much height/headroom inside is enough? Vestibule? How big? Cuban fiber or silnylon or?
Zippers have always been my weak link...would you pay more for beefier YYKs?
I know some tent makers read this forum...any thoughts for them? Go-lite - Tarptent - Slingfin - North Face? What would tell them - what do you want in a 3-season tent Sierra...your perfect tent? BTW, How much is too expensive? A casual chat about what people wish for could be interesting.
Mark
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Post by reuben on Jun 5, 2016 15:41:19 GMT -8
I like two doors for ventilation (love my Double Rainbow), but I also like the small size and weight of my Solomid (one door), which is a true one man tent. The DR has two vestibules, which is nice in bad weather. The Solomid has none.
I like side doors more and more as I age. Wind matters to me. Snow load not so much, but both would do fine with the snows we get around here. Simple setup and tear down is important to me, and silnylon's good enough for me.
The perfect tent? Not possible. First, it would have to weigh nothing and be free.
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Post by rebeccad on Jun 5, 2016 16:10:46 GMT -8
Reuben of course hit on it: weightless and free.
Seriously, though, it does depend on what you're doing with it. We went for light weight in our new one-man tent (for when we have only one kid along instead of two), just as with the two-man tent. Freestanding and two-door were key traits in the double but snow load doesn't matter for either as we have no history of or plans for winter camping. I need to be able to sit up inside, and a vestibule that lets you shed the rain gear outside is key, but it doesn't have to be huge to do that.
Zippers are a weak point, but I'll probably go on repairing them rather than carrying a heavier and more durable zipper.
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Post by zeke on Jun 5, 2016 16:14:42 GMT -8
IMO, the best 1 person tent is a 2 person, two side doors, tent. I don't need snow load capacity, but being able to be free standing is nice. I like to use my trekking poles when I can, instead of dedicated tent poles. Less weight in my pack.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 5, 2016 17:01:07 GMT -8
I like the 2 person tent as my one person tent. I have a 2 door, single wall, wind resistant, bathtub floored, I can sit up in, I can put all my gear in (with 2 people), good sized vestibules, Cuban fiber tent. The mesh is sewn in such a way that the zippers are not under strain, a first in a teet for me. My tent uses treking poles but now comes as a free standing model with the option to use trekking poles instead of tent poles. The best part of my Zpacks Duplex is that it weighs, with tent stakes, guy lines, repair tape, and stuff sack, 1.31 pounds.
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Post by BigLoad on Jun 5, 2016 18:10:15 GMT -8
My current favorite is the Tarptent Notch. It is fully dual-walled, with dual side entries and vestibules and a bathtub floor. It pitches incredibly fast and easy using trekking poles. It has multiple additional guy points, and when augmented with enough lines, is as storm-resistant as any shelter I've ever had. The only negative for is that it doesn't have much extra internal room. For me that's also a benefit, because it squeezes more easily into whatever you can find when it's late in the day and favorable campsites are suddenly rare. (27 oz.)
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Post by tigger on Jun 5, 2016 18:24:37 GMT -8
My perfect one man tent is/was my five man Golite Shangri-La. Sadly, it has bit the bullet but I will be purchasing something similar from the phoenix, My Trail Co. - Under 3 lbs, large enough to stand up in to change clothes, cook inside, and hang out in a storm. I had to tweak it make it perfect (snow/mesh skirt) and optional gear loft.
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Post by trinity on Jun 5, 2016 18:46:16 GMT -8
I like the 2 person tent as my one person tent. I have a 2 door, single wall, wind resistant, bathtub floored, I can sit up in, I can put all my gear in (with 2 people), good sized vestibules, Cuban fiber tent. The mesh is sewn in such a way that the zippers are not under strain, a first in a teet for me. My tent uses treking poles but now comes as a free standing model with the option to use trekking poles instead of tent poles. The best part of my Zpacks Duplex is that it weighs, with tent stakes, guy lines, repair tape, and stuff sack, 1.31 pounds. I also have drunk the Duplex Koolaid. For my purposes it is likely as close to a perfect tent as I am going to find.
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Post by Westy on Jun 5, 2016 19:33:15 GMT -8
We have a tent for each specific application. The Perfect One-Man tent? It depends.
I recently purchased a new solo tent to achieve weight savings. It's intended use is 3-season hikes, featuring daily mobility for distances in excess of 100 miles. I struggled all winter and spring with the decision. Looked at everything I could, and opted for the Hilleberg Enan (2016) version.
Considered Tarptent Moment DW, HMG Echo, Terra Nova Ultra 1, Six Moons Skyscape, ZPacks Hexamid and Force 10 Helium 100.
Key factors for me (in order) are weather protection, manufacturing quality, fiddle factor (pitch and take down), packability, weight, customer service, headroom and price.
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Post by Coolkat on Jun 6, 2016 5:35:12 GMT -8
The only negative for is that it doesn't have much extra internal room. I've had my eye on the Notch for a while now and what you state is my concern as I do like a little room inside my tent. But maybe the double vestibule can partially make up for that? I'm having a hard time deciding between the Notch and the Double Rainbow.
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Post by markskor on Jun 6, 2016 5:49:24 GMT -8
Lots of great tents out there. Coincidently, it appears that each poster here has what they believe is the best option for them...their ideal tent. Personally, I carry the TT Rainbow...also almost a perfect backcountry structure as easily set-up, has a side door, is light, and roomy (palatial?)...except: Only one side door...would be nicer if it had two side doors much like the double Rainbow, but just not as wide as the DR. This would provide better air flow - ventilation. Also would be "perfect" if had beefier sliders - have replaced these 4 - 5 x now...just too light, and the zippers have always blown out after 3 months of constant use, no matter how careful. FYI, wrote to Henry about both possible improvements (would pay extra) but was told not possible. However, it would make the Rainbow a much better tent.
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Post by BlueBear on Jun 6, 2016 6:07:22 GMT -8
That really depends. My perfect 1-man for summers in CO is different than for SE Alaska, which is different than camping in my own tent in the middle of the Greenland ice sheet (not kidding). It depends.
I have a hard time answering the question as stated, because my ideal tent for most circumstances is not a "standard" tent as outlined, but rather a floorless tarp. (The question is like asking for "your favorite color as long as it's red, green or blue.") An Anti-Gravity Gear basic tarp (which I don't think they make any more) is my go-to for 90% of my solo trips. 15 oz, sets with a trekking pole, has plenty of room, I carry an extra torso-length bug bivy when conditions warrant. It's perfect for me.
YMMV, as they say.
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Post by ashepabst on Jun 6, 2016 6:45:23 GMT -8
i pondered this topic for awhile when I was thinking about getting myself a solo tent. in the end I decided to use the money towards building my hammock setup.
I really wanted something that was trekking pole supported, but also a design where the fly could be set up independently. the best time to hike the Southern Mountains is the winter. if bugs aren't a concern and storms aren't imminent then the inner is just dead weight. I perseverated on the livability aspects of a one-man tent, which I couldn't easily compare because everything I was looking at was cottage industry tents that I couldn't go sit in before committing. the Notch seemed to satisfy a lot of what i was looking for but i couldn't get over the coffin-esque floor area. I was pretty close to settling on the SMD Haven, but decided to switch focus before I ever pulled the trigger.
but yeah, side doors are another important feature. climbing out of a front door tent is no fun. one complaint I have about my QuarterDome is that the doors are small enough to make entry/exit more cumbersome than it could be.
pole sleeves are a pain --does anyone prefer them?
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Post by tipiwalter on Jun 6, 2016 7:07:43 GMT -8
Got to thinking about my past tents, thinking maybe I'd start a thread to ask what others had come to think of as their "perfect" tent? My perfect solo tent is the Hilleberg Keron at 8 lbs 10 oz. I take it out on all my solo backpacking trips and have been doing so for the past 5 years. Beyond the one-man or two-man categories, what constitutes a perfect solo tent for me is fulfilled by the mighty Keron. Why? ** It is double wall with a hung-interior (well-hung?) with external flysheet poles, allowing easy set up in the rain w/o getting the inner tent wet. ** 70 to 100 denier floor which is impervious to water leaks, ground water pools and punctures. ** Triple coated silnylon "kerlon" fly which doesn't leak and is strong. ** Ample 36sq ft of living space which comes in handy in 150 hour NC mountain rainstorms or blizzards at -10F. ** No pesky unsealable mesh interior canopy which allows cold breezes or spindrift to enter. The entire inner tent is solid canopy with the option of unzipping for mesh. Mesh inner tents are unusable for me (condensation on the inner fly often drips down onto the inner canopy---you do not want mesh). ** The Keron is overbuilt with ample guylines which come in handy during hell storms---not only in the winter but my worst winds have been in July thunderstorms atop NC open balds. The Keron in action on a nice fall day. The Keron earning its keep in a TN mountain snowstorm of February 2016. Small tents have many peeves: The main one being allowing your gear or sleeping bag to rub up against the walls of your tent. This is a big negatory if you want to keep your sleeping bag shell dry over a long winter trip, esp the foot of your sleeping bag against the angled end of a small tent. The Keron solves this problem with vertical foot and head ends.
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Post by tipiwalter on Jun 6, 2016 7:22:10 GMT -8
Oh and recently I was on a December trip into the TN mountains and got caught in a 75 rainstorm at 35F---cold and wet and unending. Fact is, the kerlon fly generated alot of interior condensation on the inside of the fly and this dripped down not on me because my tent's not a single wall, and didn't drip down onto a mesh canopy because my canopy is solid---instead all this condensation dripped onto the inner yellow canopy which directed it down the outside of the inner tent to the ground. This kind of condensation doesn't happen on every trip but it happens enough in the Southeast to warrant study---and having the right shelter. Example below.
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