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Post by cloudwalker on May 5, 2016 19:46:27 GMT -8
I'm thinking this is a Bell's Vireo. Location: eastern, NC along the Roanoke River Thanks for the help  |
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Post by trinity on May 7, 2016 16:26:22 GMT -8
Bell's Vireos don't get that far east. This is a flycatcher, but it's very hard to tell which species. Was it vireo sized, or a little bigger? It looks a bit like an Empidonax Flycatcher (drab, shortish tail, faint eyering), except that the wingbars look so faint. It also looks a lot like an Eastern Phoebe, and it is perched in the open as one would expect from a Phoebe. Was it bobbing its tail? Was it calling? Without being able to judge size from the photo, my best guess would be Eastern Phoebe.
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Post by zeke on May 8, 2016 3:21:27 GMT -8
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Post by trinity on May 8, 2016 3:58:07 GMT -8
Which confirms the dim view I take on the usefulness of computer programs and apps for this kind of thing. |
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Post by bp2go on May 8, 2016 13:09:09 GMT -8
Interested in this, I looked up the bird (yellow-throated vireo) on the Cornell Bird Lab page because it's long been my favorite site for bird songs and markings. My question would be: the photo does not show wing bars, so are they just not clear? The yellow-throated vireo has two white wing bars. I confess, I may be missing them and everyone else sees them plain as day! But it's a heck of a nice shot! |
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Post by zeke on May 8, 2016 13:27:06 GMT -8
It may also have been my own error, putting in the location and the month. Then, it gave me 24 pictures of what it could've been, and I selected the Yellow Throated as the most likely.
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Post by bp2go on May 8, 2016 13:44:54 GMT -8
pictures of what it could've been I can understand that,but did you see the photo on the Cornell page I linked? It's an angled view but the wing bars show pretty well (even to me!) It also shows the map to indicate it sure is an eastern bird. I'm guessing too. |
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Post by trinity on May 8, 2016 13:53:47 GMT -8
I assure you it is not a vireo. A Yellow-throated Vireo is much yellower, has much more pronounced wingbars as bp2go pointed out, is differently proportioned, and has a more horizontal posture. They are also found in the very tops of high tree canopies, you will almost never see any vireo perched out in the open on a dead stick like this. I'd like to have a sense of this bird's size, but I feel more and more confident that it is an Eastern Phoebe. Compare with this photo.  Wonder what has happened to johnhens, he could be a help with this kind of thing.
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Post by bp2go on May 8, 2016 15:00:00 GMT -8
perched out in the open on a dead stick For the record, I am not now working on bird IDs anymore, but as soon as I saw the initial photo, after reading your mention of the flycatcher, I did immediately think it looked like a flycatcher's habit, on a post looking before darting out. I have watched that several times. But again, I'm not qualified to vote. I appreciate your awareness. And yes, where is johnjens? Last visit was 5 Dec 2015. I should snag his email and send him a note. Hope all is well. |
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Post by trinity on May 8, 2016 18:19:42 GMT -8
For the record, I am not now working on bird IDs anymore, but as soon as I saw the initial photo, after reading your mention of the flycatcher, I did immediately think it looked like a flycatcher's habit, on a post looking before darting out. Don't stop working on bird IDs, sounds like you just need to trust your instincts, which are good. Bird identification is challenging, but a lot of fun and very rewarding. |
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