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Post by JRinGeorgia on Apr 28, 2016 9:40:03 GMT -8
Malloony, your starting point should be identifying and trying to fill a need in the market (if there is one), rather than starting with the desire to build something and then poking around for an idea to build it around. Several decades ago Ford decided to make a car called the Edsel, not because anyone needed it but because they had the capacity to make it. Not surprisingly, the Edsel didn't make it.
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Post by High Sierra Fan on Apr 28, 2016 11:16:23 GMT -8
My current cooking equipment consists of a kettle, GSI hardened aluminum, a ziplock containing my FD dinner, a Lexan soup spoon and a plastic grocery cereal bowl.
And an MSR Dragonfly.
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Post by markskor on Apr 28, 2016 12:03:49 GMT -8
Good idea - tell him what cooking items we currently use and let him decide what he can improve on.
My kitchen: MSR Windpro stove, long-handled Ti spork, 1.7 lit aluminum grease pot w/ lid, 10" Ti frypan, and a scrubbie.
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Post by Coolkat on Apr 28, 2016 12:33:55 GMT -8
GSI soloist pot, folding titanium spork, plastic mug, and a no name stove (canister type) that I got at an REI garage sale for $7.00
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Post by rebeccad on Apr 28, 2016 13:50:27 GMT -8
White Box stove, no-name cheap aluminum 1.5L pot with lightweight pot lifter (wouldn't mind an improvement there), Orikaso bowl, and a lexan spoon. Oh, and some kind of vessel to hold large quantities of coffee; that one is subject to change on a whim.
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Post by grace on Apr 28, 2016 14:01:44 GMT -8
Jetboil MiniMo, bc I'm a N00B, and it was voted 'least likely for me to burn down the forest'. I'd like to downsize later, but it's a good call for now. I also have a spork, and a GSI mini pepper grinder. Because style counts. I also have a large Tervis mug, in a Dr. Seuss design.
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Post by JRinGeorgia on Apr 28, 2016 16:39:24 GMT -8
For water boil only: Caldera Cone Keg-F with Starlyte stove, caddy acts as a bowl and cup (or 2 bowls), and long-handled ti spoon.
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Post by BigLoad on Apr 28, 2016 18:16:21 GMT -8
Caldera cone, MSR Titan Kettle, long-handled spoon, red plastic cup, freezer bags, Orikaso folding plate.
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Post by Lonewolf on Apr 28, 2016 19:09:22 GMT -8
Cookset parts acquired separately:
Titanium pot: <5oz.
W/ lid: ~6oz
Coleman Xtreme stove: 4oz - This is no longer made. Cartridges were discontinued years ago but I cleaned out the Seattle REI at the time but still have a few left and only use it in winter since the fuel is isobutane and works well at low temps.
I also have a Primus ETA Express:
1L pot with built-in heat exchanger and windscreen with a lid that doubles as a strainer plus bowl.
Entire kit including stove is around 15oz. Add a gas cartridge that lasts 5-6 days for a total weight of about 1½#.
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Post by franco on Apr 28, 2016 21:59:50 GMT -8
Just for my curiosity, what makes you think that you are going to come up with a better solution than the existing stuff offers ?
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Post by charly13 on Apr 28, 2016 23:00:57 GMT -8
Watch out! Soon you will be asked to take part in a crowd-funding project (like an indiegogo campaign) and once you have spent your money, I doubt you will ever hear from malooney again!
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Post by malloony on Apr 29, 2016 2:37:28 GMT -8
O, might hear of me again, you might not, but if you question my motivation here it is; I am doing research to find out what you guys want/need to cook outdoors (not your garden) in order to develop a product for a company. See, i am an industrial product design student at the Technical University of Delft (the netherlands) (soon to be ir.) and I am working a case. My troubles are that i want to reach people who actualy go outside and have the space to backpack. Forums like yours are ideal for me, so yeah thanks for helping me out.
As for the product; there is a real chance that this product will reach the market if the company likes it and you guys sure as hell won't need to crowdfund me. So no, i'm not after your money, only your input towards a great product. And I can tell that (allmost) everyone of you has been very helpfull!
So thanks!
(PS: if you guys feel betrayed like "this is for a school project??", I am sorry but I can assure you, the better your imput, the better my product, the more real the chance is this product will see the shelves)
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Post by Lonewolf on Apr 29, 2016 3:30:35 GMT -8
You're attempting to produce a product that numerous other companies with a great deal of experience in the US backpacking market already produce very well for a good price. You're also starting from a knowledge base of zero about what we do and how we do it.
It may not be you can't come up with a possible viable product but you're still at the starting line while so many others have already crossed the finish line years ago.
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Post by amaruq on Apr 29, 2016 3:37:19 GMT -8
Optimus Crux, S2S Spork, GSI 1L Pot.
I doubt you'll find much to replace in my backcountry kitchen.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 29, 2016 3:59:45 GMT -8
Ti pot with lid at 4.25 ounces
Stove with case at 3.95 ounces
Fuel Can at 5.9 ounces
Piezo Ignighter at .45 ounces
Stove Carry bag at .9 ounces
Spork at .3 ounces
I'd like a stove that would 'charge' or draw from the air the fuel needed to cook a meal (boil water) that does not weigh more then a pound.
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