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Post by paula53 on May 6, 2016 12:08:58 GMT -8
Very well said. Too many people fall for that sales pitch, and buy an inferior sleeping bad because it will keep them "warm" if it gets wet. A wet bag is useless, w either it be down. Or synthetic.
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Post by rebeccad on May 6, 2016 18:55:20 GMT -8
Sure, you can see your body's moisture accumulate in down over time, on a longer trip. And if conditions are at all amenable, flopping the bag over the tent or a rock in the sun while you eat breakfast (and unstuffing it to air after you reach camp) will go a long way towards avoiding that creeping dampness.
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Post by rebeccad on May 6, 2016 18:58:07 GMT -8
Tarp for shade, not in Canyon. Methinks I recognize that camp!
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Post by almostthere on May 6, 2016 20:14:50 GMT -8
Sure, you can see your body's moisture accumulate in down over time, on a longer trip. And if conditions are at all amenable, flopping the bag over the tent or a rock in the sun while you eat breakfast (and unstuffing it to air after you reach camp) will go a long way towards avoiding that creeping dampness. Conditions in the Sierra Nevada are perfect for that. 8-| Also for drying out other gear. Rainforests, well... but not so many two week trips planned for those. Two nights, maybe.
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Post by rebeccad on May 7, 2016 7:18:22 GMT -8
Rainforests, well... but not so many two week trips planned for those. Two nights, maybe.
Yeah, I'm not so keen on backpacking in rainforests. I grew up in one. I like dry and open.
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Post by huntnhike on May 10, 2016 18:57:50 GMT -8
The above pictures are of my gear so far (Sparty doesn't count). Here's my equipment list as in the picture from top left and then Bottom right up. HH regulate jacket Fleece jacket Long underwear shirt Wicking T shirt Long underwear pants Exofficio pants Injinji liner socks Smartwool hiking socks Wicking Underwear Coleman Cookset (Wanting to replace with GSI minimalist or Microdualist) Primus fuel canister (use large canister for group,small for solo) Lighter (will be switching to a BIC mini) Snow peak Gigapower stove Stove windscreen Tent poles Tent (hope to replace my 7.5 pound Eureka Apex 2xt with a Big Agnes copper spur or Seedhouse 3 person) toilet paper MSR Miniworks water filter REI Long Air Rail 1.5 Lafuma 20*F sleeping bag weighs 4lbs (replacing with a down bag or quilt for savings on weight and bulk as it is currently in a Large e-Vent bag and 17-20 Liters. Osprey Aether 70L bag I realized after trying out the Aether 70 that I need to shrink my gear or bring a pack mule... The pack is FULL, weighs 26 pounds and I still don't have a lot of gear in it: still need first aid kit, survival gear, rain gear, Camelbak, bottle, food, water and others. I I now understand the comment on no need for sleeping bag compartment, and I have an appreciation for exterior pack pockets. The Aether feels great with 26 pounds, better than the Osprey Poco loaded with my 25# kid and about 5-8 pounds essentials(38 pound in all). Now that you all know more of where I am at, I'm still up for more suggestions:-) I'm trying the pack out this week and may return it this weekend- pending how I like it. I think I'm looking at the Enlightened, hammock gear or Underground quilts, possibly Nemo Nocturne 15 for sleeping systems and then Big agnes Tents, and a NeoAit Xlite pad for my main purchases.
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Post by trinity on May 11, 2016 4:27:12 GMT -8
Those are all great choices, you won't go wrong with any of them. I have an Xlite and love it, but if I had it to do over again I might choose the Xtherm instead. 3 more ounces for a lot of additional warmth (r-value of 5.7). I own gear from both Enlightened and Underground Quilts, they make very high quality gear. One thing that I like about these two companies is that they specify on their websites that their down is ethically sourced, and not live plucked. Hammock Gear doesn't make any mention on their website, which does not necessarily mean that it is not ethically sourced. Their gear is very highly regarded, I have read countless rave reviews of their quilts. My wife just purchased a Copper Spur 2, but we haven't gotten to field test it yet. It is a pretty sweet tent. I think you are definitely headed in a very good direction here.
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Post by FarOutFarley on May 13, 2016 19:36:55 GMT -8
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Post by almostthere on May 13, 2016 19:43:08 GMT -8
2 lbs for a 35F bag?
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Post by FarOutFarley on May 13, 2016 19:47:24 GMT -8
Yeah, well, it's a true 35F bag that I've used to 25F with more clothing, and it's cheap.
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Post by rebeccad on May 14, 2016 9:15:04 GMT -8
Yeah, well, it's a true 35F bag that I've used to 25F with more clothing, and it's cheap. There is something to be said for cheap, but I'd spend more and get a warmer bag for the same weight. I can't remember now where the OP is backpacking, but in the Sierra we have to go prepared for temps to 20 and below even in August. I do use a 32-deg mummy, but it's a trade-off: sometimes I'm cold, even wearing a lot of clothes (I do it because said bag is less than 20 oz and about the size of a liter bottle. I am seriously thinking of upgrading to a 20 or 25-deg. quilt, for about the same weight).
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Post by huntnhike on May 15, 2016 20:27:21 GMT -8
Everything from the Bighorns to Badlands to Grand Canyon :-)
I'm going with the EE revelation I think:-)
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Post by almostthere on May 16, 2016 5:18:31 GMT -8
Good choice. My bf has one in his high school colors. A fringe benefit of cottage gear... More choices.
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