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Post by hikerjer on Mar 27, 2016 17:17:25 GMT -8
I aways say whatever works for you but the idea of boiling water in it for an emergency never occurred to me. Food, or water, for thought.
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Post by crawford on Mar 27, 2016 17:32:38 GMT -8
That is party my paranoid side and partly my practical side. I boiled 32 oz when I had 3 of us on the trail, coffee and oatmeal for all in one boil.
I don't love the taste of most chemically treated water. Its just a thing with me, had to live on some bad water that was chem treated for a long time and really grew to dislike it. I know a lot of the tabs today don't leave the strong flavors behind, but that chem taste hasn't left me in 25 years. So boiling is my secondary treatment if my primary, a Katadyn pump filter, fails.
I'm not sure how much more my bottle weights compared to a Nalgene, I know it is lots more than a very functional Gatorade bottle or a platypus.
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Post by franco on Mar 27, 2016 17:38:27 GMT -8
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Post by High Sierra Fan on Mar 27, 2016 19:22:43 GMT -8
That is party my paranoid side and partly my practical side. I boiled 32 oz when I had 3 of us on the trail, coffee and oatmeal for all in one boil. I don't love the taste of most chemically treated water. Its just a thing with me, had to live on some bad water that was chem treated for a long time and really grew to dislike it. I know a lot of the tabs today don't leave the strong flavors behind, but that chem taste hasn't left me in 25 years. So boiling is my secondary treatment if my primary, a Katadyn pump filter, fails. I'm not sure how much more my bottle weights compared to a Nalgene, I know it is lots more than a very functional Gatorade bottle or a platypus. I hear you on the taste thing, my one bout with Giardia was due to my finally not be able to stand the stuff and taking too risky a chance with the water. But that was back in the iodine days. But there are new varieties of chemicals which don't add a discernible taste, at least to me. shop.katadyn.com/product/8014996?catalog_id=1&language_id=1
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Post by crawford on Mar 28, 2016 4:53:45 GMT -8
Thanks HSF, I'll check the link.
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Post by jazzmom on Mar 28, 2016 7:20:16 GMT -8
I don't love the taste of most chemically treated water. Its just a thing with me, had to live on some bad water that was chem treated for a long time and really grew to dislike it. I know a lot of the tabs today don't leave the strong flavors behind, but that chem taste hasn't left me in 25 years. So boiling is my secondary treatment if my primary, a Katadyn pump filter, fails. I was really wary of chemicals, too. Bought a package of Katadyn Micropur that I carried around as a back-up for a long time before actually using it and, boy, was I surprised! No discernible taste, as far as i can tell; you'll notice any plastic tastes from the container or any "dusty" taste of the source before the chemicals. The Katadyn is chlorine dioxide. MSR uses a slightly different formulation. A litre for 7oz isn't that bad for a pot and, with a group, you can probably justify a second pot for boiling water but, well, I'd just chalk it up to convenience and not so much as a "back-up". In the end, if you like hiking with it, then just take it. It's only worth re-considering if you're trying to cut ounces.
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Post by idahobob on Mar 28, 2016 13:38:00 GMT -8
Metal water bottles: not me, but each to his own (ETHO). nalgene: not me, ETHO. backup water treatment: tablets or aqua mira, or boiling bladder with a hose that collects bacteria and needs to be cleaned, no thanks. Preferred water container: camp water bottle:
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Post by almostthere on Mar 29, 2016 20:39:07 GMT -8
I like how I keep hearing that assumption that a hydration bladder and hose host bacteria.
Never had any. I think I maybe rinsed it out once. But I don't use anything but clean water in them.
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Post by amaruq on Mar 30, 2016 4:07:58 GMT -8
^ No more bacteria than a bottle would host, anyways.
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Post by reuben on Mar 30, 2016 4:33:42 GMT -8
Bob, let me see if I understand your post correctly. If I date Jennifer Aniston, I get a free bottle of water, right?
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Post by almostthere on Mar 30, 2016 7:18:32 GMT -8
^ No more bacteria than a bottle would host, anyways. I do remember washing some schmutz out of a bottle once, but it was used for lemonade. I have three Platypus hydration bladders, one in the day pack, one in the SAR pack (tho I don't do SAR any more, so it's now in one of the backpacks) and a three liter in my main backpack. Every six months or so I add a few drops of bleach to a little water and let it sit in the bite valve I use the most, just out of principle. I don't store them in the freezer, wash them out, or anything. The water always tastes pretty much like water. No schmutz, no discoloration, no problems. They are after all the same exact plastic as all the bottles. Unless you're talking about the Lexan ones Nalgene or Camelbak or some of the other bottle brands make.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 30, 2016 7:49:52 GMT -8
For a while I used, at the end of the season, some bladder cleaning tablets. They workd good. Now, at the end of the season, I put a few drops of bleach into the bladders, filled with water. I then pull off the bite valve and, with the bladder raised, let the bladder empty through the hose, rinse bladder and hose, let dry, and put away for next summer.
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Post by amaruq on Mar 30, 2016 7:52:11 GMT -8
I do remember washing some schmutz out of a bottle once, but it was used for lemonade. I have three Platypus hydration bladders, one in the day pack, one in the SAR pack (tho I don't do SAR any more, so it's now in one of the backpacks) and a three liter in my main backpack. Every six months or so I add a few drops of bleach to a little water and let it sit in the bite valve I use the most, just out of principle. I don't store them in the freezer, wash them out, or anything. The water always tastes pretty much like water. No schmutz, no discoloration, no problems. They are after all the same exact plastic as all the bottles. Unless you're talking about the Lexan ones Nalgene or Camelbak or some of the other bottle brands make. I wash my Nalgenes with soap and hot water after every trip, but that's because I have the cheaper HDPE ones which can take on a mean rank and similar taste. The costlier Tritan ones have no such issue. I have a small daily-use one that gets a flush of water every once in a while and always after using it for carrying my morning milk. Now, at the end of the season, I put a few drops of bleach into the bladders, filled with water. I then pull off the bite valve and, with the bladder raised, let the bladder empty through the hose, rinse bladder and hose, let dry, and put away for next summer. That's also the cleaning process for the Platypus GravityWorks filter systems.
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Post by High Sierra Fan on Mar 30, 2016 11:33:20 GMT -8
I like how I keep hearing that assumption that a hydration bladder and hose host bacteria. Never had any. I think I maybe rinsed it out once. But I don't use anything but clean water in them. The clean water is the thing: people who use electrolyte replacement drinks etc. in them can achieve HUGE mold growth....
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Post by Deleted on Mar 30, 2016 12:16:00 GMT -8
My wife and I use Nuun's and do not experience mold growth.
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