crawford
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Post by crawford on Mar 25, 2016 10:28:06 GMT -8
All,
I've been roughed up...dare say beat down. I've been put in my place for the "excess" weight I carry (not here but from some other hikers I know). Now that my buises have healed and I can see through my blackened eye, I pose a question.
Does anyone else choose to carry a metal bottle when backpacking?
I do, a 32oz wide mouth, seemless Kleen Canteen with a 25oz nesting cup and lid. I choose this because it is my backup water treatment as I can fill the bottle and boil all the water at once. I carry a filter, but I'm a little paranoid about water. I have been without it and I've enjoyed a bout of dysentery when abroad. That in mind, I carry a means of filtering water and I carry the means of boiling up to 32oz of water if my filter fails.
Also, if hiking with a group, the bottle serves as a large pot for boiling lots of water at one time for several dehy meals or cups of tea/coffee.
Additionally, I've had plastic break, particularly in cold weather. I strongly believe in HYOH, and know that sometimes we take things just because they bring us confidence or comfort, likewise we sometimes don't carry certain things because we are comfortable without them.
Now understand, I'm not looking for votes of confidence here. I'm just checking to see how many others are paranoid like me :(
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Post by zeke on Mar 25, 2016 10:51:29 GMT -8
I carry a Klean Kanteen while kayaking, since the boat carries the weight. When BP'ing, I tend to carry used Gatorade bottles, or the like. They really are difficult to damage, but you can't boil water in them. I carry Micro-pur tablets for water treatment, so no boiling needed. I boil my supper time meal water for re-hydration, instead of treating it. That is the only water I boil. As for back up carrying container, I use a collapsible Nalgene 3L.
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Post by High Sierra Fan on Mar 25, 2016 11:20:11 GMT -8
Tell those other hikes to F' off. Problem solved. I think you're being overly cautious with the "I could boil water in it" stuff BUT having shattered my only Nalgene polypropylene water bottle in a late night ill-advised experiment using it as a frantic tent stake hammer as a blizzard rolled in over me in an early August night in the Sierra (note" athletic tape held together water containers taste REALLY funny, and still leak, and carrying water up Whitney in cooking pots you're holding in your hands get's you funny looks....) so having a backup of some sort for water containment is something I agree with I have both carried two Nalgenes and, more recent;\ly a Nalgene and a collapsable quart bottle: always with my overnight Dromedary). But for water treatment alone some Micropur tablets will be FAR lighter. Couple your usual trail bottle with a folding Platy bottle or small Dromedary water sack and there's that. www.rei.com/product/768123/platypus-plusbottle-1-liter-water-bottle-with-pushpull-cap |
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Post by amaruq on Mar 25, 2016 11:42:57 GMT -8
I've never had any problems with my three 1L HDPE Nalgene bottles. They are the relatively flexible ones, compared to the rigid triton ones that cost twice as much.
Nothing wrong with metal bottles, just a bit heavier is all. HYOH. :-)
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Post by tigger on Mar 25, 2016 11:46:37 GMT -8
I use one. I just drill it out to shave weight.
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Post by reuben on Mar 25, 2016 11:47:29 GMT -8
I just drill it out to shave weight. If you cut most of the top off of it you can use it as an alcohol stove. |
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Post by trinity on Mar 25, 2016 11:50:31 GMT -8
I carry a 32 oz Klean Kanteen. It is a perfectly nice bottle, and one of the only bottles I own with a wide enough mouth for my steripen, which is why it accompanies me on most backpacking trips.
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Post by reuben on Mar 25, 2016 11:59:36 GMT -8
I use collapsible plastic bottles like the Platypus 1L. They make different sizes and styles. They collapse when not being used, which saves space. But HYOH. |
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crawford
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Post by crawford on Mar 25, 2016 12:38:50 GMT -8
I also use collapsables, I've got 3l and 1.5l that I like. The 3L has a straw.
Trinity that is another reason I like it, the wide mouth.
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Post by franco on Mar 25, 2016 19:08:19 GMT -8
I also use those Platypus/Nalgene collapsible bottles as well as a couple of Gatorade but I can understand why you do what you do , so my take would be that you should keep doing what works for you.
If you had 20 guys telling you that you are wrong, would still not change that it works for you.
Have fun !
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Post by hikerjer on Mar 25, 2016 19:52:04 GMT -8
I use either a Nalgene or Camelback bottle. Just personal preference, I suppose. On long trips where water may be scarce I carry a 3 liter collapsible Platypus container to use when needed.
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Post by toejam on Mar 26, 2016 8:12:04 GMT -8
I don't see me ever carrying a metal bottle, but it makes as much sense as me always carrying a Nalgene bottle. I just like it.
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Post by franco on Mar 26, 2016 20:50:02 GMT -8
I just like it
That is a comfort item.
A lot of climbers have some stuffed toy or object (photos of the loved ones is popular) that is not at all useful but gives them comfort in time of need (moral boost)
Given that the Nalgene bottle does have a use (and no I don't think it will kill you...) why not ?
My Opinel knife is a comfort item.
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Post by jazzmom on Mar 27, 2016 15:21:11 GMT -8
OK, so how much does this bad baby weigh? (I'm guessing you mean "Klean" but I'm only seeing 27oz and 40oz wide-mouth bottles on their website.) And are you looking to cut weight? If you're not, then it's moot.
For back-up water treatment, I just take tablets.
The Klean website says the 27oz bottle weighs over 8oz. Gotta admit, that's pretty heavy and it's not exactly a "large pot". Just saying...
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crawford
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Post by crawford on Mar 27, 2016 16:36:24 GMT -8
This is an older style, 32oz and on my kitchen scale comes in at 7oz. Not too light, but versatile as I can boil 32oz of water at once over a camp fire or my alc stove for when I have a group with me.
As I said, maybe I'm a little paranoid, maybe it is just another woobie I carry.
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