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Post by reuben on Mar 14, 2016 14:43:24 GMT -8
This thread needs a soundtrack.
1986 cowbell, decades before the phrase "more cowbell" was coined.
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Post by desert dweller on Mar 14, 2016 15:12:42 GMT -8
This thread needs a soundtrack. Steve Earle and Sheryl Crow did a great version of this from the sound track to Steal This Movie.
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Post by Lonewolf on Mar 14, 2016 17:31:28 GMT -8
after the first year there was a dramatic increase in school bus accidents/incidents Do you have a link because that doesn't make any sense?
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Post by Lonewolf on Mar 14, 2016 17:37:29 GMT -8
I've run across many people who say they have problems with metric because they can't remember the conversions. You aren't supposed to remember the conversions... you're just supposed to use it. One thing I point out that many seem to be unaware of is: 1cc (volume) = 1gr (weight). The rest is simple math.
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Post by Lonewolf on Mar 14, 2016 17:50:02 GMT -8
That applies only to water - which is defined to have a density of "1". Volume and weight are otherwise not directly convertible. 1 gram of a denser object will occupy less space, for example. OTOH, 1 cc does equal 1 ml. Yeah, I inadvertently left water out of the equation.
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Post by amaruq on Mar 15, 2016 4:30:33 GMT -8
but I'm equally well versed in what we call US units. So much in fact that I can better visualize an inch than a cm, or a pound than a kilogram I'm also a "mutt". I find myself preferring inches, feet and miles (over cm, meters and km's); but also liters (over cubic inches) and celcius (over fahrenheit). I guess I like measurements that return a lower number. 30-liter backpack is just easier to picture than 1,831 cubic inches! Part of the problem (for me) is the steel industry, which is still heavily based in US units. So in design drawings I often end up specifying fractions of inches in millimeters... 3.2, 6.4, 9.5, 12.7, 15.9, 19.1, 22.2, 25.4, 31.8, 38.1, 50.8, 76.2, 101.6, 127, and so on. That being said, I use kilometers over miles because powers of 10 are easier than 5280. That, and I can better visualize a kilometer based on both driving and walking times.
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Post by red dog on Mar 15, 2016 14:44:44 GMT -8
Do you have a link because that doesn't make any sense? Sorry LW, I just saw your comment. Actually I had some difficulty finding a link to back-up my statement ... You see, it was on the news in 1974, that is why they abandoned the year round thing. I remember, but, no internet in 1974.
I did find a vague reference to it, but no statistics
6th paragraph www.standardtime.com/
edit: Here is another 'reference' to it Adjacent to the photo of Richard Nixon www.smartdatacollective.com/shawn-gordon/302476/abolish-daylight-savings-time
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Post by Lonewolf on Mar 15, 2016 18:58:23 GMT -8
Thanks. The thing about school bus crashes is a result of going to DST. In which case just stop changing to it. As I said, I don't care which one, just pick one and stick with it.
From your second link. "There is no energy savings, quite the contrary. It doesn’t improve public safety, it does none of what it is purported to do. What it does have is a deleterious effect on public health and safety. A negative impact on kids performance in school, as many studies show that kids do better in school by starting later in the day and DST is contrary to that. Massive hidden costs and dangers in adjusting delicate computer software systems. Modern life does not require DST. Our lighting energy costs are trivial compared to our other usage like computers and TV’s."
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Post by desert dweller on Mar 16, 2016 8:42:35 GMT -8
I use a couple of standard-to-metric equivalences. One is 22C is equal to 72F. Also, a nickel weighs 5 grams. Plus, I like this definition of a "calorie". "A calorie is the amount of energy it takes to raise one cubic-centimeter of water one degree Celsius.
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Post by johnnyray on Mar 16, 2016 9:17:38 GMT -8
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Post by Lonewolf on Mar 16, 2016 14:27:39 GMT -8
One is 22C is equal to 72F That would be 71.6°.....
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Post by desert dweller on Mar 16, 2016 14:43:22 GMT -8
That's probably why I'm not an engineer.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 16, 2016 16:43:37 GMT -8
If you find a need for conversions often on a Windows machine, here is a neat little program that will convert virtually any unit to any other unit among old British, American, and metric. It's simply named Convert for Windows. I'm not aware of any version for Macs. I have a small digital scale that I use for smaller backpacking items and check calibration by weighing 80 quarters to get 453.6 grams (about a pound) according to the weights provided by the US Mint: If the calibration is off, it may be time to change the battery. I'm often running into equipment that uses some metric and some American units, so one way or the other, I need to be familiar with both.
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Post by reuben on Mar 16, 2016 16:48:41 GMT -8
What, only 3 decimal places? Less than 1,000 words? Travis, I'm disappointed in you. That post is not up to your usual standards.
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Post by zeke on Mar 16, 2016 17:13:20 GMT -8
Not me. I like the 4 time zones as is, but would shift to metric if they allowed. As for DST, I can take it or leave it. After one day of sleep adjustment, I am good to go.
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