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Post by downriver on May 16, 2024 16:26:33 GMT -8
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Post by sarbar on May 16, 2024 19:50:22 GMT -8
"Sean Barnes has often shown up a little late to work at their REI store in Austin, Texas, over the last four and a half years."
That might be the real issue. Lol. I mean....it is kind of expected you show up on time, unless you have an actual understanding, in writing. PIP is how you force people out and they can't sue after.
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Post by bluefish on May 17, 2024 5:57:16 GMT -8
His tardiness constitutes a week's extra vacation a year. It also shows disregard for company policy in general. It's also unfair to his fellow employees. Actually, they should can his supervisor. 4 years of slouching in late equals a month of paid time off. What employer tolerates that, union or non?
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Post by sarbar on May 18, 2024 9:23:20 GMT -8
4 years of slouching in late equals a month of paid time off. What employer tolerates that, union or non? He was probably hourly, so he doesn't get paid. Rather, it means they were understaffed by the person's tardiness. Which is a PITA of course. Holds up people getting off work, going to lunch and so forth.
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Post by ErnieW on May 18, 2024 11:12:42 GMT -8
Anyone going to ask if he worked later to make up for it? His coworkers might like that. They can leave on time because there is someone to finish up for the day.
I know lots of people who have worked for REI in the past and they all said the laid back vibe was a good thing about working there. The other things were health insurance and the ability to take leave, go on an adventure then have a job when you get back. I guess not anymore. I blame management consultants.
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Post by downriver on May 18, 2024 16:32:47 GMT -8
Anyone going to ask if he worked later to make up for it? His coworkers might like that. They can leave on time because there is someone to finish up for the day. I know lots of people who have worked for REI in the past and they all said the laid back vibe was a good thing about working there. The other things were health insurance and the ability to take leave, go on an adventure then have a job when you get back. I guess not anymore. I blame management consultants. REI usually works two shifts unless your back of house in the morning before the store opens. He exhibited poor behavior. Flawed logic in your first paragraph. Yes, REI use to be known for their laid-back vibe; it's definitely changed now. Fortunately, they've recently brought back health insurance for part-time workers (after they've worked for 3 months at REI). REI also has a lot more part-time workers now then full time. They are becoming more of a part-time workforce at the store level these days. One thing gone with unionization at REI stores is the laid-back approach to things as with unionization a more structured approach to managing people occurs. Things are set with formal policy & procedures to ensure everyone is on the same page and treated fairly (in theory). Regards, DR
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Post by downriver on May 18, 2024 16:50:53 GMT -8
His tardiness constitutes a week's extra vacation a year. It also shows disregard for company policy in general. It's also unfair to his fellow employees. Actually, they should can his supervisor. 4 years of slouching in late equals a month of paid time off. What employer tolerates that, union or non? My recent employment with an outdoor gear & apparel company showed quite a bit of enabling behavior on part of management in regards to dealing with employee tardiness, work expectations, worker accountability, boundaries, and worst of all, favoritism. The company, like REI, is known for its progressive policies. I was very surprised to see lots of bad worker behavior tolerated due to management not wanting to address work expectations and behavior. It was very similar to the "cool parenting" mindset. Operationally, the store had over a 60% turnover rate in less than a year (and this was from a company known to have the best benefits and pay in the outdoor gear & apparel industry). On an unrelated side note, Bluefish---I hope you're doing well health wise these days! Regards, DR
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